[NL2-NL10] Mwp Kk

    • Stedyeddy
      Stedyeddy
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      Joined: 28.02.2011 Posts: 7,499
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
      SB ($69.90)
      BB ($24.75)
      UTG ($83.40)
      Hero ($25)
      UTG+2 ($71.59)
      MP1 ($23.42)
      CO ($30.09)
      BTN ($50)

      Dealt to Hero K:spade: K:heart:

      fold, Hero raises to $1.25, fold, fold, CO calls $1.25, fold, SB calls $1, fold

      FLOP ($4.25) J:club: T:spade: 7:diamond:

      SB checks, Hero bets $3, CO calls $3, SB folds

      TURN ($10.25) J:club: T:spade: 7:diamond: A:heart:

      Hero checks, CO bets $2, Hero calls $2

      RIVER ($14.25) J:club: T:spade: 7:diamond: A:heart: 5:heart:

      Hero checks, CO checks

      I should c/f turn?
      should bet?

      Oponent: 59 hands

      59/16

      AF: 3.6
  • 9 replies
    • Stedyeddy
      Stedyeddy
      Black
      Joined: 28.02.2011 Posts: 7,499
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
      SB ($25.83)
      BB ($32.99)
      UTG ($27.71)
      Hero ($26.80)
      UTG+2 ($20)
      MP1 ($54.68)
      CO ($50)
      BTN ($25)

      Dealt to Hero J:heart: J:diamond:

      fold, Hero raises to $1.25, fold, MP1 calls $1.25, fold, fold, SB raises to $2.75, fold, Hero calls $1.50, MP1 calls $1.50

      FLOP ($8.75) 3:club: 6:heart: T:spade:

      SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks

      TURN ($8.75) 3:club: 6:heart: T:spade: K:diamond:

      SB bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50, MP1 folds

      RIVER ($13.75) 3:club: 6:heart: T:spade: K:diamond: 5:diamond:

      SB bets $9, Hero folds

      SB shows T:heart: T:diamond:

      SB wins $13.13



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      I dont like to push PF, this SQZ use to be premium hands.
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,698
      Hi.

      I think for hand 1, while that is a really bad board vs tighter players, you def have a value bet against this loose guy. He's definitely calling all pair+gutshots again on the turn like KJ QJ KT QT, he has way more JX than tighter players like J9 J8, so you have a valuebet for sure.
    • mbml
      mbml
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      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,698
      I think for hand 2 you can just bet the Flop, I think we have the best hand a lot, other guy can have lower pocketpairs, and I think PFR is giving up the majority of the time.
    • Stedyeddy
      Stedyeddy
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      Joined: 28.02.2011 Posts: 7,499
      Good. And thanks for stopping and evaluate.
      Sorry for the double post. Do not know what happened

      1- So I should value turn something like $5.5 ?
      If he pay I got a c/f river?


      2-Bet the flop? Her range IMO is super strong, Its somethinkg like JJ+ and AK+.
      If I bet the flop and he llove me. I have to pay? i dont know.
      If I bet and he cold me. Turn blank. What i must du?

      What is your oppinion about to fold preflop? I hate to pay 3bets when im un UTG.
    • mbml
      mbml
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      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,698
      1. My guess is that he calls all JX again on the Turn, but on the River he folds some of the weaker JX to a river bet. And he has some AT/KQ/AQ/AK type of hands, which gives him a good number of stronger hands.

      And I think we are not beating enough of his river betting range to find a c/c there. So it's a c/f.
    • mbml
      mbml
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      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,698
      2. I'm not putting him on QQ+ most of the time once he checks. Mostly AK and we are hoping he c/c Flop with 2 overs

      Don't like folding JJ too much pre, but if he 3bets to a large size, and we know he is super nitty in these positions, then JJ = 77 (cos we are mostly calling to set-mine and hit a set of Jacks).

      I may find a fold in some of these rare spots but usually I don't fold JJ to 3bets.

      Tbh if he shoves I am not too sure what to do, maybe it's a c/f unless you think he does it with AK. But I think a c/r is just going to happen so rarely and I expect villain to c/f and c/c a good amount once he checks.
    • Stedyeddy
      Stedyeddy
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      Joined: 28.02.2011 Posts: 7,499
      -1 I love your line to extract value fron this hands.

      -2 interesting.

      Thnkx for your time and evaluation.
    • kymupa
      kymupa
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.10.2009 Posts: 22,364
      Hello,

      #1

      Preflop there's nothing much to comment on.

      I like betting on the bigger side on this connected board here.

      Turn is definitely not the best card here, but just like mbml said, I think we can put in a value bet against this guy here.
      This hand improves his QT/KT/QJ/KJ with a gutshot and I doubt they are folding at all and he probably isn't folding hands like T9/T8 too.

      I do agree that the river is a check/fold after we bet the turn.



      #2

      Preflop I think it's close between shoving and calling and considering that the guy looks rather loose I think we can go broke here.

      On the flop I think we definitely have to bet here for value. Why do we check?

      As played, I think the turn is a fold here.
      His line looks quite like AK and we have a player behind also.

      On the river folding is fine.

      Best,
      Plamen
    • Stedyeddy
      Stedyeddy
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      Joined: 28.02.2011 Posts: 7,499
      Oka. So, the best line in hand n2 is b/f the flop. Oka.
      When I SQZ hands like AA, KK or QQ I never bet this flop, I always play c/AI to extract the max and make an balance whit AK.