[NL20-NL50] NL 20 Z00M 6MAX weird line taken/feedback welcome

    • elchipriota
      Joined: 06.06.2012 Posts: 438
      I took a weird bluff line below and I would like some feedback regarding my process thinking and potentially whether I miss out something in the assumptions I made.

      First of all my take on the players in the hand:

      :spade: Button: Kind of tight preflop reg and passive postflop. I expect him to flat and fold to 4bet on the button very often. He will 3bet the top end of his range 95% of the times and will fold the rest against 3bet and 4bet.

      :spade: SB: Is a huge passive fish, I expect him to fold as well almost every time, got into the hand with a trashy hand because of the good price.

      :spade: BB: This guy as I assumed and was prooven right later on was very aggro preflop. By the time this hand was played in 33 hands recorded against him he managed to 3bet from sb 15%, bb 65% and squeeze once.

      Given the reads I had from above i decided to 4bet him and take down the pot immediately, back up plan was that if he jams I fold and if he calls i evaluate on flop.

      On the flop once he checks I was thinking whether to give up or cbet.

      Cons for cbetting: He can easily be trapping with TT+ and jam while the pot is quite big already. I also have very small equity in the hand.

      Pros for cbetting: I felt that by flatting my 4bet it gave me a read which allowed me to exclude the top end of his range QQ+ as he would most certainly 5bet/jam Oop.
      Range I put him was AK,AQ,AJ,KQ, and some small pocket pairs. 99 to JJ I feel he leads out often enough himself.

      I decided to bet with the thinking that my range is very polarized given the preceeding action that he will fold with the same frequency to a small bet that he will be folding to a 70%+ bet.

      Any comments are welcome.


      BB: Player1 ( $20.83 USD ) - VPIP: 36, PFR: 18, 3B: 23, AF: 5,0, Hands: 33
      Button: Player8 ( $20.50 USD ) - VPIP: 17, PFR: 13, 3B: 6, AF: 1,4, Hands: 284

      IPoker, $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BB: $20.83 (104.2 bb)
      UTG: $55.92 (279.6 bb)
      MP: $16.80 (84 bb)
      Hero (CO): $39.91 (199.5 bb)
      BTN: $20.50 (102.5 bb)
      SB: $7.66 (38.3 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with J 9
      2 folds, Hero raises to $0.60, BTN calls $0.60, SB calls $0.50, BB raises to $3, Hero raises to $6.80, 2 folds, BB calls $3.80

      Flop: ($14.80) 2 6 7 (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $7.60, BB folds

      $14.80 pot ($0.74 rake)
      Final Board: 2 6 7
      BB mucked and lost (-$6.80 net)
      Hero mucked J 9 and won $14.06 ($7.26 net)
  • 3 replies
    • mbml
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694

      1) 4bet size is too large, I think we can often put him in push or fold mode with a min4bet. Note that his squeeze size is already freaking huge at 15BB so when we min4bet to 3, it's already 30BB.

      2) There are better hands to 4bet bluff with. Unless of course you think dynamic dictates that he is going to squeeze here super often in this exact spot (maybe he just lost a huge pot in the previous hand). If not I'll just wait for AX to squeeze here with a blocker.

      3) Cbet size in 4bet pot is too large. Just bet 40% and hope to get a fold.

    • elchipriota
      Joined: 06.06.2012 Posts: 438
      Thanks Galvin
    • serverm07
      Joined: 08.08.2012 Posts: 1,130

      I prefer just folding vs sqz, we can use better hands to 4bet bluff with. Also +1 to everything above.