[NL20-NL50] NL 20 Z00M 6MAX Tight laydown with QQ preflop

    • elchipriota
      elchipriota
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      Joined: 06.06.2012 Posts: 438
      Is this too tight?

      Vilain is unknown, only read we have is that he is 4tabling at NL20.

      Folded since minimum value 5bet range i give him is AA,KK, and AK if he is on the loose end.

      What do you think?


      IPoker, $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BB: $14.98 (74.9 bb)
      UTG: $36.64 (183.2 bb)
      Hero (MP): $48.30 (241.5 bb)
      CO: $0 (0 bb)
      BTN: $14.81 (74.1 bb)
      SB: $28.95 (144.8 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP with Q Q
      UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.60, CO raises to $1.80, BTN calls $1.80, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4.40, CO raises to $20, 2 folds

      Results:
      $10.90 pot
      CO mucked and won $10.90 ($6.50 net)
  • 3 replies
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
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      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,897
      Hey,

      This is a big mistake. Your 4bet is meant to put your opponent into push or fold mode and once you decide to 4bet and fold a value hand it means your plan doesn't make sense. What's CO's stack? I can see you are 241bb deep, if his $20 is a shove, you should snap call it.
    • elchipriota
      elchipriota
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      Joined: 06.06.2012 Posts: 438
      Yes $20 is 100bb and thats his stack. That's the first time I laid down queens :f_mad:

      I understand what your saying above, so if I am not prepared to call his all in I should be flatting?

      Main reason I folded is that is felt very strong the fact that he 5bets me all in with a guy flatting behind him.
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
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      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,897
      I actually feel a shove is weaker as in definitely not aces, more likely AK.

      Yes, if you can't get it in profitably you are still ahead of his range to call and play postflop with QQ imo. When you 4bet/fold such a strong value hand you need to think your opponent calls a lot with worse but when 100bb deep, a standard 4bet size will put your opponent into a push/fold situation. Why would you want to 4bet/fold a value hand when a guy shoves or folds? Get it? :)

      Imo, this is a slam dunk get it because of positions, him squeezing.. sure, you run into QQ+, AK a very high percentage of the time but you win when he folds to the 4bet a lot plus you are commited to call against QQ+, AK given pot odds and money in.