how long can i play before my bankroll is empty (my first blog ever)

    • partyboy77
      partyboy77
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      hi this is my first blog and i want to see how long i can play with my january deposit . i have played poker in about 4 months 3 months where it was just about 1-2 times a week for an hour or so just for fun . i started out reading the poker rules and printed out a hand ranking chart to see what hands beat what and so . but here in january i decided to try to play a little more serious and read about defrent strategies and make my first "large" deposit on 2 poker sites . on the one poker site i play 1$ sng and on the other i play nl2 cashgame . i deposited 64,19$ on the sng site the 3 january this year and 67 euro on the cashgame site the 19 january this year . sofar ive lost about 1/3 of my br on the sng site in 118 sngs played so im down to 42 $.. on the cashgame site i almost break even but i havent played alot there yet so maybe thats the explanation i have downloadet the hm2 trial version and have 18 days back .. not sure if i want to buy it yet becuse of 2 main reasons . 1 i dont know if i can afford it and if it is worth it when im still this unskilled at poker and 2 i can only make it work on the sng site becus i cant change the language on the other site (and i dont undestand how to read the hud anyways and cant find out where to lern it and undestanding it :) ) . but i write down the sng results after evry sng played and i write down the cashgame results after evry table changing :) ..

      status right now is

      im down in sngs with 22,8$
      and im down in cashgame with 1cent :D

      i have made 7 first place 19 second place and 10 third place in sng :)

      my current br for sng is 42$
      and my current br for cashgame is 66,99 euros

      im sorry for my english im not that good at it and it have been a bit difficult to undestand the strategies i have read on ps completly but i have been reading them a cupple of times and keep doing it until i remember and undestand them completly . that was all for now . good luck at the tables all :)
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    • legand73
      legand73
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      Hey partyboy77

      I found when i started playing that using a starting hands chart was really helpful. I recommend playing play money tables until you get a feel for them and carry reading the great basic articles that we offer here at pokerstrategy.com.

      The starting hands chart for sngs
      http://www.pokerstrategy.com/strategy/sng/2232/1/

      and for cash games
      http://www.pokerstrategy.com/strategy/bss/1534/1/

      are in these articles. let us know how you get on !!
    • partyboy77
      partyboy77
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      hey legand73 thanks for the links :D

      today i woke up and set a goal for today by playing 10 sng´s today . and then visit my mom and spend some time with my girlfriend ..

      i have played the 10 sng now and its have been the best poker day ive ever had .. :D

      ended up with 4 first place one 2 place and two 3 place :D with a total win
      at 12,95$ and my BR is now on 55,29$ at my sng acount
      so im really happy with todays session :D

      i have 1 hand that i played really really bad .. tryin to slowplay it was a mistake i should just had taken the pot down imediatly :/ .. but ive learned from it so thats okay :)

      $30/$60 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      MP2 = ($2450.00)
      MP3 = ($3850.00)
      CO = ($1700.00)
      BU = ($1720.00)
      BB (Hero) = ($1390.00)
      UTG = ($2670.00)
      UTG1 = ($1860.00)
      UTG2 = ($2180.00)
      MP1 = ($2180.00)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with 2 :heart: , 2 :spade: .
      7 folds, Hero calls $30.00, UTG checks.

      Flop: ($30) Q :club: , 3 :spade: , 2 :club: (2 players)
      Hero checks, UTG checks.

      Turn: ($30) 4 :heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets $120.00, UTG calls $120.00.

      River: ($270) A :heart: (2 players)
      Hero checks, UTG bets $1,020.00, Hero raises to $1,240.00(All-In), UTG calls $190.00.

      Final Pot: $2720.
      Results follow:

      UTG shows a straight, six high(5 6).
      Hero shows three of a kind, twos(2 2).

      UTG wins with a straight, six high(5 6).
    • partyboy77
      partyboy77
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      okay today i have so far played 9 sngs and im planning to play 6 more so i get a total of 15 . so far it havent been to good.. ending up with tree 3 place and bust out on the other 6 hopefully ill catch up on the last 6 :) ..

      7 of the handst i busted out on im not sure if i played correct . i think some of them i did considering the situation and some of them was just bad play from mee . after i have played the last 6 sngs i will post the hands on this thread that im not sure of . and if there is more hands in the last 6 sngs i wil post them to . and hopefully get some feedback on them from some of you who is reading this blog .

      after i have played the last sngs i wil study the sng strategy articles .
      and lern some new stuff :D . and watch some of your coaching videos afterwards .. :) ..
    • ipeaceonu
      ipeaceonu
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      Originally posted by partyboy77
      who is reading this blog .
      I am, GL with the games it looks like your heading in the right direction.
    • partyboy77
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      i wassent sure if he was just tryin to steal the pot here
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter: Play hand $100/$200 No-Limit Hold'em (4 handed) Known players:
      BB:
      $7526.00
      MP3:
      $4704.00
      CO:
      $2300.00
      BU (Hero):
      $5470.00
      Preflop: Hero is BU with 8, Q. CO calls $200.00, Hero raises to $600.00, BB calls $500.00, MP3 folds, CO calls $400.00. Flop: ($1700) 3, 8, T (3 players) BB bets $2,000.00, CO folds, Hero raises to $4,870.00(All-In), BB calls $2,870.00. Turn: ($11440) 9 (2 players) River: ($11440) 2 (2 players) Final Pot: $11440. Results follow: Hero shows a pair of eights(8 Q). BB shows a pair of tens(A T). BB wins with a pair of tens(A T).

      i was tryin to make him fold with this all in and still have some outs if i get called
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter: Play hand $100/$200 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed) Known players:
      BU:
      $1540.00
      BB:
      $6655.00
      MP1:
      $2435.00
      MP2:
      $3080.00
      MP3 (Hero):
      $1530.00
      CO:
      $4760.00
      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A, 9. MP2 raises to $400.00, Hero raises to $1,530.00(All-In), 4 folds, MP2 calls $1,130.00. Flop: ($3060) 8, 6, T (2 players) Turn: ($3060) 3 (2 players) River: ($3060) 2 (2 players) Final Pot: $3060. Results follow: Hero shows high card ace(A 9). MP2 shows high card ace(J A). MP2 wins with high card ace(J A).

      i only had close to 3 bb in this one
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter: Play hand $100/$200 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed) Known players:
      MP2:
      $6015.00
      MP3:
      $2015.00
      CO (Hero):
      $590.00
      BU:
      $7740.00
      BB:
      $3640.00
      Preflop: Hero is CO with A, 3. MP3 folds, Hero raises to $590.00(All-In), BU calls $590.00, 2 folds, MP2 folds. Flop: ($1180) 5, 2, A (2 players) Turn: ($1180) 8 (2 players) River: ($1180) 5 (2 players) Final Pot: $1180. Results follow: Hero shows two pairs, aces and fives(A 3). BU shows two pairs, aces and fives(A K). BU wins with two pairs, aces and fives(A K).

      i was tryin to steal the blinds here but still have some outs to do it with
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter: Play hand $300/$600 No-Limit Hold'em (4 handed) Known players:
      BB:
      $10850.00
      MP3:
      $3360.00
      CO (Hero):
      $3310.00
      BU:
      $2480.00
      Preflop: Hero is CO with K, Q. Hero raises to $3,310.00(All-In), BU folds, BB calls $3,010.00, MP3 folds. Flop: ($6320) 4, 8, J (2 players) Turn: ($6320) 9 (2 players) River: ($6320) 2 (2 players) Final Pot: $6320. Results follow: Hero shows high card king(K Q). BB shows high card ace(3 A). BB wins with high card ace(3 A).

      i only had 2,5 bb here and the blinds was comming to me next time
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter: Play hand $200/$400 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed) Known players:
      BU:
      $1930.00
      BB:
      $1487.00
      UTG:
      $2660.00
      UTG1 (Hero):
      $1100.00
      UTG2:
      $2610.00
      MP1:
      $4150.00
      MP2:
      $590.00
      MP3:
      $3710.00
      CO:
      $1763.00
      Preflop: Hero is UTG1 with 2, J. Hero raises to $1,100.00(All-In), 6 folds, BB raises to $1,487.00(All-In), UTG folds. Flop: ($2587) A, T, Q (2 players) Turn: ($2587) 2 (2 players) River: ($2587) 3 (2 players) Final Pot: $2587. Results follow: Hero shows a pair of twos(2 J). BB shows two pairs, aces and tens(T A). BB wins with two pairs, aces and tens(T A).

      trying to steal blinds here
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter: Play hand $300/$600 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed) Known players:
      CO (Hero):
      $2390.00
      BU:
      $3670.00
      BB:
      $7965.00
      MP2:
      $3220.00
      MP3:
      $2755.00
      Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, 9. MP3 folds, Hero raises to $2,390.00(All-In), 2 folds, MP2 calls $1,790.00. Flop: ($4180) 7, 7, J (2 players) Turn: ($4180) A (2 players) River: ($4180) 8 (2 players) Final Pot: $4180. Results follow: Hero shows a pair of sevens(Q 9). MP2 shows two pairs, aces and sevens(A T). MP2 wins with two pairs, aces and sevens(A T).

      trying to resteal in this one
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter: Play hand $200/$400 No-Limit Hold'em (3 handed) Known players:
      BB:
      $5340.00
      CO (Hero):
      $3335.00
      BU:
      $11325.00
      Preflop: Hero is CO with K, 7. BU folds, BB raises to $600.00, Hero raises to $3,335.00(All-In), BB calls $2,535.00. Flop: ($6470) 4, Q, 4 (2 players) Turn: ($6470) A (2 players) River: ($6470) 9 (2 players) Final Pot: $6470. Results follow: BB shows two pairs, aces and fours(A 7). Hero shows a pair of fours(K 7). BB wins with two pairs, aces and fours(A 7).

      only had 2 bb here
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter: Play hand $300/$600 No-Limit Hold'em (3 handed) Known players:
      BB:
      $8710.00
      CO:
      $10070.00
      BU (Hero):
      $1220.00
      Preflop: Hero is BU with 3, T. Hero raises to $1,220.00(All-In), BB calls $920.00, CO calls $620.00. Flop: ($2760) 6, 3, K (2 players) BB checks, CO checks. Turn: ($2760) Q (2 players) BB checks, CO checks. River: ($2760) J (2 players) BB checks, CO checks. Final Pot: $2760. Results follow: Hero shows a pair of threes(3 T). BB shows high card ace(A 4). CO shows a pair of kings(K 7). CO wins with a pair of kings(K 7).

      dont know what i was thinkin here .. hoping to hit something i guess .
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter: Play hand $20/$40 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed) Known players:
      UTG1:
      $2500.00
      UTG2:
      $1980.00
      MP1:
      $1760.00
      MP2:
      $1780.00
      MP3 (Hero):
      $1900.00
      CO:
      $2360.00
      BU:
      $5840.00
      BB:
      $1880.00
      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K, A. 3 folds, Hero raises to $120.00, CO folds, BU calls $120.00, 2 folds, UTG1 folds. Flop: ($240) 6, T, 9 (2 players) Hero bets $150.00, BU raises to $600.00, Hero calls $450.00. Turn: ($1440) Q (2 players) Hero raises to $1,180.00(All-In), BU calls $1,180.00. River: ($3800) 6 (2 players) Final Pot: $3800. Results follow: Hero shows a pair of sixes(K A). BU shows two pairs, tens and sixes(T J). BU wins with two pairs, tens and sixes(T J).

      tryin to steal blinds here
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter: Play hand $300/$600 No-Limit Hold'em (3 handed) Known players:
      CO:
      $7040.00
      BU (Hero):
      $5390.00
      BB:
      $7570.00
      Preflop: Hero is BU with 7, 7. Hero raises to $5,390.00(All-In), BB folds, CO calls $4,790.00. Flop: ($10180) 4, 6, 6 (2 players) Turn: ($10180) K (2 players) River: ($10180) J (2 players) Final Pot: $10180. Results follow: Hero shows two pairs, sevens and sixes(7 7). CO shows a full-house, fours full of sixes(4 4). CO wins with a full-house, fours full of sixes(4 4).

      tryin to steal blinds here again with some okay cards i think
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter: Play hand $200/$400 No-Limit Hold'em (4 handed) Known players:
      MP3:
      $2220.00
      CO:
      $12085.00
      BU (Hero):
      $2380.00
      BB:
      $3315.00
      Preflop: Hero is BU with A, J. CO folds, Hero raises to $2,380.00(All-In), BB folds, MP3 calls $2,220.00(All-In). Flop: ($4600) Q, 8, 5 (2 players) Turn: ($4600) 4 (2 players) River: ($4600) 3 (2 players) Final Pot: $4600. Results follow: Hero shows high card ace(A J). MP3 shows a pair of jacks(J J). Hero wins with high card ace(A J). MP3 wins with a pair of jacks(J J).


      so if anyone can tell me what cards i played okay and what cards i played stupid and why and so on i would apreciate it very much :)

      i have played the 15 sng´s and not with much luck today .. there was loooong between some good cards and when i finally got some good cards i diddent hit the flop or i got smashed on the river .. but well evryone has those days right? :) .. status is tree 3 place and one 2 place .. total loose today 7,35$ and current BR on sng account is now 47,94$

      i think i wil try to play some cashgame tomorrow .. Unfortunately, i can not track hand histories on the cashgame site becus i cant change the language .. but i will update how long i played and how much i won/loose when im done playing . and if i can manage it i wil write down if there is some interesting hands .. but not sure if i can do it and still focus on the game but lets see.. this was all for today .good luck at the tables yall :) ..
    • Gentari
      Gentari
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      Joined: 08.05.2011 Posts: 344
      Hi,

      I looked at the first 3 and gave up. The formatting hurts my eyes.

      I find too many hands in blogs I just end up skipping ;)

      These hands are ideal to post in the Evaluation Forum, you will get expert help.
    • partyboy77
      partyboy77
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      hey gentari i have posted the hands in the evaluation forum .. thx for the advise i had not thought about that ;) ..
    • ironmask92
      ironmask92
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      I just looked at the first hand you posted. I'm getting a little dizzy after first hand.

      You shouldn't re-raise to 600 with Q/8o from the bb (since villian is chip leader). When chip leader re-raised to 2k, you should have folded and not shoved. Q/8o is only a marginal hand and should be folded unless you have reason to suspect villian will fold to a re-raise.
    • ipeaceonu
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      Preflop: Hero is CO with K, 7. BU folds, BB raises to $600.00, Hero raises to $3,335.00(All-In), BB calls $2,535.00.


      I am confused here, how does the BB raise before you have acted?

      Hands mostly look wild/spewy (although this could well be that they are just too hard to read) . I would get into some of the free coaching/videos available to you on this site that specifically deal with begginers strategy. Then go back and look through these hands you have posted and do your own analysis on each one and see how much it differs from your thinking atm. GL
    • ipeaceonu
      ipeaceonu
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      Ok so I had another look, there is a little play hand thing that plays the hand through in anohter tab. Myadvice, don't use this HH converter again, its awful. There are plenty out there that are far easier to use. Anyway, most of your all ins seem pretty standard. Maybe work on your post flop play a bit more. I know your only just starting so I don't wanna sound harsh, just giving friendly advice.
    • partyboy77
      partyboy77
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      hey evryone appreciate the help from you all :D its nice to see that your want to help a newbie like me getting started...

      my plan for today . is to play some 6 max cashgame nl2 after i come home from school if i issent to tired .. im currently educates to joiner and have to be at the workshop all day today . . but lets see ...

      if i issent to tired then my plan is to play for 1-2 hour and study some more at my sng postflop play atleast an ½ an hour .

      as mentioned i cant use the hm at the game i play cashgame on so i wil just update how long i played and what my win/loose are and maybe if i can stay focused and still write some hands down i wil post them aswell if theres is some interesting hands :) ...

      until then any tips and advises is much apreciated . and gl at the tables all :)
      have a good day and see you later :)
    • partyboy77
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      okay so i have played some cashgame for two hours now .. not really happy with the outcome but not really sad either .. i won 1,04 euro´s so its not much .. but i did win some :) .. and thats better than loosing money ..

      it started out terribly play nl2 and went in to 2 "big" pots one where i have QAds and bet 10 cent . 3bbraise + 2 limpers . get called by 2 and the pot is
      34 cent .. flops hit hard Qs Ac 3c . im at the button by the way . 2 checks to me and i bet pot . so im now down to 1,66euro . 1 folds 1 cals and pot is now 1.02 euro . turn is Jh . 1 check to me . i bet half pot 0,51 cent . he calls . im down to 1,15 cent river is Kh . 1 check to me i check back and loose to AK :(

      second hand is AJ cant remember the colours diddent have time to write it down . but im co all folds i raise 6cent button call sb and bb folds pot is 15 cent.. so the flop is J 3 8 . i check button bet pot and i call ´pot is now 45 cent . i have 0,94 cent back in my stack .. turn is 5 button bet pot i call pot is now 1,35 euro . and im down to 0,49 cent . river is 9 . (i remember that there is not any flush draw :) .. ) button check. and i check . .and boom he shows pocket jacks and win ..

      but i mannaged to play my way up to at profit at 1,04 cent . and stopped playing after that . so thats good :) ... to of the hands i won most in today was. full house with 3K2T´s and flopped a tripple jacks .. those two hands i won about 2 euros . and then some small pots .

      ( a little question to the readers)
      what do you think about playing 2 tables insted of 1 table at ones in cashgame nl2 for me? when i play sng i usually play 3-4 tables at once :)

      and what are your oppinion about leaving the table and buy in on another one when win 25% above the buy in to save your winnings and minimize your loosings ?
    • Gentari
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      The idea of leaving a table when you have doubled the buyin has been around for a while, Chris Ferguson did a challenge and that was an essential part of his plan.

      So go to the table with $2 and leave at $4.

      I am not sure as I play less cash games than SNGs but for me I would rather leave a though table where i am losing than an easy table where I am winning :f_love:
    • partyboy77
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      yeah i see the idea of leaving the tough table and keep playing at the easy table usually when im at a tough table i see it as learning and tighten up my starting hands and bluff a lot less and see it all as practice (sometimes an expensive practice but still :) .. but what i am affraid on is the bad beats .. so i ussually just leave when i have won an 25%+ amount .. when i sit at a table with 2$ i leave when i have won 50 cent .. is this to tight ? :) .. maybe i should say 50%+ instead .. and i was just wondering how much harder it is to play 2 talbes at once in low limit cashgames than one table .. ofcourse i could just try it . but if one of you more experinced players had a tip for me i would listen to this instead since im still a fish :D

      and just another thing .. how much harder is it to end up ITM in mtt sng´s 20-50 players in compare with 9-10man sng .. just tryin to experiment . but still with limit .. dont want to loose all my BR on experimenting on lvl´s im not ready for .. :) ...
    • partyboy77
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      okay so i tryed multitabling today at cashgame nl2 .. it diddent went so well .. after 2 hours of playing i had a +on 38cent . but well as i said yesterday .. atleast i won some and diddent loose some.. so i think thats fine considdering how new i am at poker ..

      status on my cashgame bankroll is 68,29 euro started out with 67,03

      so thats a + 1,26 euro :) ..

      i think i wil study some bss her at ps now for an hour or so and hopefully come back better tomorrow .. and im not sure if i sould try multitable again tomorow
      today i played 4 tables . maybe i sould try 2 tables tomorow insted . :)

      if any of you have some advise to me about multitabling it would be much appriciated .. good day evryone :) .. and feel free to ask any question you might have :D
    • partyboy77
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      so i played for 1½ hour today and lost 1,09 euro in cashgame .. so now i wil play 4 sng´s and call it the day .. i think that the scool is making me too tired to bring my a game at the moment .. cuz i make some bad calls without even thinkin about it .. not so good ..

      maybe i will wait until the weekend to play again and get some more sleep and play when im more rested and see if things go better .. i think i fall for alot of bluff in the cash games and have to work on that .. and i think i play too loose .. i play at 6max .. maybe i should go for full ring for a week and see if there is any changes .. tighten up my game . make less bluffs and read some more strategy articles ...

      im currently started reading . The quick guide to skyrocketing your poker and life productivity .. it looks like something i could get a lot from .. so i will deffently read the whole article :) .. i will update again on the 1 feburay with my january stats .. the most stats will come from the sng´s becuse i can track that .. and my cashgame stats will mostly be how much i have won / loose

      in febuary i wil also start making some small weekly goals for my poker game and see if i can complete them . just to make me step up my game further and keep me focused on improowing my game ..

      good day to all of you .. and GL at the tables ..
    • ipeaceonu
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      Ok, you seem really commited to improving. If you add me in the community tool I can probs help you out with the basics here if your looking to get those sorted out. I don't offer help often as so many people just come and go. I would advise to join moshmans free sng coaching later, it's always a decent session and you will learn a lot.
    • partyboy77
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      hey ipeaceonu .. do you mean add you as a friend/buddy .. ?? if not what is the community tool .. cant find it .. .. have added you as a friend btw .. just in case it was what you ment :) ..

      and is there any way i can see moshmans free sng tomorrow as i am getting readdy to go to bed .. im too tired right now to do anything else but going to slepp :/ ...
    • partyboy77
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      okay so i have takken a break from poker today and wil go to sleep in a moment and get a lot of rest .. tomorrow i have a short school day so i hope i will be much more fresh when i come home and start playing some poker and hopefully play my a game ... i will now present my january status on cashgame and sng´s

      my current BR in cashgame is 67,20 euro .. thats a plus on 19 cent :P

      and as i cant track my cashgame plays.. thats all the stats i can give on this at the moment

      my current BR in sng´s is 48,63$ thats a - on 14,93 $ ..

      i have played 148 1$ regular full ring sng´s in january . plus a little bit of cashgame and have tried some turbo 6man sng . but that was before i registred to another site to only play cashgame there and from febuary i wil only play sng´s on the one site and cashgame on the other :) ..

      out of the 148 sngs i ended up with 11 first places 21 second places and 15 third places .. thats a total winning of 125,80$ and a total buy in at 148$ = a loss on 22,20$ .. and i gues the last 7,27$ winning is from the cashgame and 6 man turbo sng that i diddent record . so thats a total loss on 14,93$

      hope that febuary will be better as i think i have lerned a little bit after reading some more strategy articles and the fact that i have 148sng behind me so far .. but only time will tell ..

      this was my january update .. good night people :) .. looking forward to play some poker tomorrow :D ..
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