[NL2-NL10] NL10 - J8s (BB vs SB)

    • Philfox1985
      Joined: 18.12.2010 Posts: 934
      My thoughts during this hand was that he is very unlikely to have hit this board.

      I was torn between floating & just raising the flop.

      Given I thought I couldn't represent much with a raise I decided to try to take it away on the turn. When he called I figured he probably had a pair given the board texture and didn't think it was worth continuing the bluff on the river.

      Looking back at the hand, I'm not entirely sure it was worth trying to bluff this opponent. He had a WTSD% of around 40%, I didn't remember seeing that at the time - if I had I would have given up and waited until I had a hand to value bet him.

      Seat 1: Player1 ( $9.15 USD ) - VPIP: 33, PFR: 33, 3B: 11, AF: 2.0, Hands: 52

      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: $9.15 (91.5 bb)
      Hero (BB): $18.42 (184.2 bb)
      MP: $4.88 (48.8 bb)
      CO: $4.69 (46.9 bb)
      BTN: $12.35 (123.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with J 8
      3 folds, SB raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.20

      Flop: ($0.60) 4 K 4 (2 players)
      SB bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30

      Turn: ($1.20) 6 (2 players)
      SB bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1.50, SB calls $1

      River: ($4.20) 3 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks

      $4.20 pot ($0.19 rake)
      Final Board: 4 K 4 6 3
      SB showed T J and won $4.01 ($1.91 net)
      Hero mucked J 8 and lost (-$2.10 net)
  • 3 replies
    • kymupa
      Joined: 22.10.2009 Posts: 22,364

      I would definitely not defend J8s in this spot.

      Just fold the flop.
      We have no information about him plus we have no equity.

      On the turn I'd fold again.

      Once he calls your turn raise here I think checking back is fine.
      It's unlikely that better hands will fold here.

    • Philfox1985
      Joined: 18.12.2010 Posts: 934
      What range would you defend pre-flop?

      On these type of paired boards can we really just fold every time when we have no equity (this will be almost every time) to a c-bet, or just in this spot?
    • kymupa
      Joined: 22.10.2009 Posts: 22,364
      I'd call here something like 22-99(TT), A2s-AQs, A9o-AQo, K9s+, KTo+, QTs+, QTo+, J9s+, JTo, T9s, 98s, 87s, 76s.

      Basically you can go for a tighter or wider range depending on the opponent we are against or your postflop skills.

      Also, if the opponent is on the rather aggressive side (he's going to bet the turn most of the times) we have no problems just folding here.
      If we go for a call we can at least have some backdoor flush or something.