[NL2-NL10] nl2 ATs SB 3bet

    • noulispa
      noulispa
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      Joined: 27.01.2010 Posts: 1,280
      MP: $2.12 (106 bb) 31/22 /fld cbet 40/fld 3bet 0(2)/59 hands
      CO: $1.47 (73.5 bb)
      BTN: $2 (100 bb)
      Hero (SB): $2.17 (108.5 bb)
      BB: $2.04 (102 bb)
      UTG: $2 (100 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with T:club: A:club:
      UTG folds, MP raises to $0.06, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, BB folds, MP calls $0.14

      Flop: ($0.42) 3:diamond: K:club: Q:club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.22, MP calls $0.22

      Turn: ($0.86) 4:spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.40, MP folds

      reads on the MP : " i 3bet his MP open some hands before with KQo and he calls with KTs , he hit the FD and played it passive check flop X/X turn river".

      So with that read i 3bet him here for value .
      On the flop we hit preetty much the nuts .
      On the turn though with our monster draw we still want to go broke ? or is a bet fold ? (or we can take an other line e.x ch/raise?).

      Another Q if we only had the nut FD our play would be the same on the turn ?
  • 3 replies
    • w34z3l
      w34z3l
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      Joined: 03.08.2009 Posts: 13,309
      Hey noulispa,

      I think the answer to your turn question is pretty much just a maths problem.

      Assume opponent jams turn. You will need to call $1.30 to win an overall pot of $4.24. 1.30/4.24 = 30%. You would need 30% equity to call a raise after you bet this size.

      If we assign opponent a value range of AK, KQ, QQ/KK/33/44 you have 25% equity and it is technically a fold. However if your opponent also would ever jam draws and/or KT/KJ it's fine to bet/call.

      However I'd probably bet a little larger on the turn - you do (edited) want fold equity in this spot despite having a strong draw. If you were to betcloser to $0.60 on the turn, the price you'd get when your opponent jams is a lot better and you have a clear call even vs a strict value range.
    • noulispa
      noulispa
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      Joined: 27.01.2010 Posts: 1,280
      Originally posted by w34z3l
      Hey noulispa,

      I think the answer to your turn question is pretty much just a maths problem.

      Assume opponent jams turn. You will need to call $1.30 to win an overall pot of $4.24. 1.30/4.24 = 30%. You would need 30% equity to call a raise after you bet this size.

      If we assign opponent a value range of AK, KQ, QQ/KK/33/44 you have 25% equity and it is technically a fold. However if your opponent also would ever jam draws and/or KT/KJ it's fine to bet/call.

      However I'd probably bet a little larger on the turn - you don't want fold equity in this spot despite having a strong draw. If you were to betcloser to $0.60 on the turn, the price you'd get when your opponent jams is a lot better and you have a clear call even vs a strict value range.
      thanks for the answer W34z3l very clear
    • w34z3l
      w34z3l
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      Joined: 03.08.2009 Posts: 13,309
      Hey, more it less it was clear,

      but when I said "you don't want fold-equity" I meant, "you DO want fold-equity". Sorry :D I edited my post.