[NL2-NL10] NL10 SH KJo

    • Atoks
      Atoks
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.06.2008 Posts: 1,354
      I was on this table some 30min and I experienced some bad beats and had to lay down in some medium sized pots. Most of the money I lost against my opponent in this hand.

      EDIT : Learned how to extract for Elephant finally so I'm reposting the hand

      6
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      BB:
      $12,67
      Hero:
      $10,00
      BU:
      $25,73

      0,05/0,1 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.58 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is CO with K:heart: , J:diamond:
      2 folds, Hero raises to $0,40, BU calls $0,40, SB folds, BB calls $0,30.

      Flop: ($1,25) 5:diamond: , T:diamond: , Q:spade: (3 players)
      BB checks, Hero checks, BU bets $0,70, BB folds, Hero calls $0,70.

      Turn: ($2,65) 9:heart: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU bets $1,00, [COLOR=red]Hero ?



      OK so is there any chance this is just a blocking bet? Would u guys shove or maybe go with a lower bet? What about the flop, was just calling OK?
  • 7 replies
    • Tosh5457
      Tosh5457
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      Joined: 18.01.2008 Posts: 3,062
      I'm not sure what his stats are since I don't use elephant and I don't know the stats order.

      On the flop you can call for a TP(K - 2 outs) and OESD(6 outs, discounting 2 for possible flush).

      On the turn I'd raise like to $5. You still need protection for a FD.
    • Atoks
      Atoks
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      Joined: 01.06.2008 Posts: 1,354
      Yeah I fixed the post with the hand... after clicking randomly at some things I finally realized how u can make nicer hand conversions in Elephant :)
    • Tosh5457
      Tosh5457
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      Joined: 18.01.2008 Posts: 3,062
      Thanks, I'll still keep my opinion. On the flop you should call for the pot odds and implied odds against that opponent, on the turn it looks like a blocking bet, he might hold a T or a FD imo and he just wants to see a cheap river/showdown. Anyway you have to raise, build that pot and protect against FD, and some cards that would make your straight look obvious (like 8, J and K).
    • Philipvw
      Philipvw
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      Joined: 28.05.2007 Posts: 578
      I don't like this, why starting to be aggressive on the turn? Your first step here is to bet the flop.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      I´d contibet on the flop, since if I hit my draw I can bet turn for value+ I always have some fold equity. You should c/r turn for 4$ to make pot enough large that you could push on the river.
    • Atoks
      Atoks
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.06.2008 Posts: 1,354
      I'm going to post the results now as well, because in the end it was an interesting situation. The guy actually had 13outs on the turn:


      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      BB:
      $12,67
      Hero:
      $10,00
      BU:
      $25,73

      0,05/0,1 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.58 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is CO with K:heart: , J:diamond:
      2 folds, Hero raises to $0,40, BU calls $0,40, SB folds, BB calls $0,30.

      Flop: ($1,25) 5:diamond: , T:diamond: , Q:spade: (3 players)
      BB checks, Hero checks, BU bets $0,70, BB folds, Hero calls $0,70.

      Turn: ($2,65) 9:heart: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU bets $1,00, Hero raises to $4,00, BU raises to $8,90, Hero raises to $8,90 (All-In).

      River: ($20,45) 8:heart:


      Final Pot: $20,45

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a straight, king high (Kh Jd)
      BU shows two pairs, queens and nines (Qd 9d)

      Hero wins with a straight, king high (Kh Jd)
    • Tosh5457
      Tosh5457
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.01.2008 Posts: 3,062
      Nice, bad luck for him because you got a set but that's for calling pf with Q9s.