[NL2-NL10] 87 limping

    • yaxkukmian
      yaxkukmian
      Bronze
      Joined: 24.12.2007 Posts: 2,020
      no hud, speed,
      UTG is super bad player,
      SB is reg (was afraid he might go for iso raise but since he's in the worst position I was hoping he won't do it)
      BB tight player

      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
      SB ($28.60)
      BB ($8.65)
      UTG ($19.73)
      UTG+1 ($16.08)
      CO ($12.30)
      Hero ($10.83)

      Dealt to Hero 8:heart: 7:diamond:

      UTG calls $0.10, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.10, fold, BB checks

      FLOP ($0.35) 6:spade: Q:club: 5:spade:

      BB checks, UTG bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, BB calls $0.30

      TURN ($1.25) 6:spade: Q:club: 5:spade: 7:club:

      BB checks, UTG bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, BB calls $0.50

      RIVER ($2.75) 6:spade: Q:club: 5:spade: 7:club: 7:heart:

      BB checks, UTG bets $0.50, Hero raises to $2.80, BB folds, UTG calls $2.30

      UTG shows A:diamond: 6:club:
      (Pre 57%, Flop 50.0%, Turn 11.4%)

      Hero shows 8:heart: 7:diamond:
      (Pre 43%, Flop 50.0%, Turn 88.6%)

      Hero wins $7.80


      I usually don't limp behind but since we have the position and can play it quite straight forward.

      Flop is so so but when he bets so much I think he doesn't have it.

      When he bets so small on the turn I'm sure he doesn't have much but since BB is in the game he might have some Qx, Q6, Q5, 65,76, combo.

      River is good card and when BB c I go for max value because I'm sure he has sth not some FD or sth like this. 5x or 6x will call when another 7 comes. It's a tricky spot if he shoves but I would call him ( I have notes he's bad and loose). Also I have 8 blocker so 98 is less likely. Is my potential river shove normal here against bad player?
  • 3 replies
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hi Yax,

      Preflop: What exactly are you looking to flop by limping behind? This hand is barely good enough to isolate yet you play it with a limp? This should be an easy fold preflop imo.

      Postflop: As played I prefer to raise that turn for thin value especially since we are still multiway. We may even get BB to fold a better hand (and UTG to call worse).
    • yaxkukmian
      yaxkukmian
      Bronze
      Joined: 24.12.2007 Posts: 2,020
      Originally posted by BogdanPS
      Hi Yax,

      Preflop: What exactly are you looking to flop by limping behind? This hand is barely good enough to isolate yet you play it with a limp? This should be an easy fold preflop imo.
      Any two pair, straight is good enough ;)
      I do it very rarely only when I see bad people. I didn't want to isolate him since he will call me preflop always and then I have to be aggressive with hand which may hit good but on many boards I will be dead. I know limping is bad because we may play 4 handed and I might get 2 pair but some other player might get straight or bigger 2 pair.

      Originally posted by BogdanPSPostflop: As played I prefer to raise that turn for thin value especially since we are still multiway. We may even get BB to fold a better hand (and UTG to call worse).
      Very nice. Wasn't thinking about it. It's always good to get rid of at least one opponent. How much would be good raise - $1,50?
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Originally posted by yaxkukmian
      Originally posted by BogdanPS
      Hi Yax,

      Preflop: What exactly are you looking to flop by limping behind? This hand is barely good enough to isolate yet you play it with a limp? This should be an easy fold preflop imo.
      Any two pair, straight is good enough ;)
      I do it very rarely only when I see bad people. I didn't want to isolate him since he will call me preflop always and then I have to be aggressive with hand which may hit good but on many boards I will be dead. I know limping is bad because we may play 4 handed and I might get 2 pair but some other player might get straight or bigger 2 pair.

      Originally posted by BogdanPSPostflop: As played I prefer to raise that turn for thin value especially since we are still multiway. We may even get BB to fold a better hand (and UTG to call worse).
      Very nice. Wasn't thinking about it. It's always good to get rid of at least one opponent. How much would be good raise - $1,50?
      $1.5-$2 would be a good start (for the raise).

      As far as the hand being played preflop, how often do you flop 2p+ and OESDs?