[NL2-NL10] FF NL10-6Max QQ in BB..

    • BigAl123456
      BigAl123456
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.07.2010 Posts: 4,080
      Party, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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      Hero (BB): $10.68 (106.8 bb)
      UTG: $9.82 (98.2 bb)
      CO: $10 (100 bb)
      BTN: $10 (100 bb)-VPIP 22%-PFR 16%-PFAF 4.1-OSFBTN 46%-FT3Bet 71%(55)-4Bet 16%(19)-Hands 2016
      MP: $5.11 (51.1 bb)
      SB: $10 (100 bb)-VPIP 21%-PFR 16%-PFAF 1.4-FSBTS 84%(51)-3Bet 2.8%-3BetFSB 6.6%-WTSD 31%-W$SD 65%(43)-Hands 1073

      Preflop: Hero is BB with Q Q
      3 folds, BTN raises to $0.30, SB calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.50, BTN folds, SB raises to $4.40, Hero raises to $10.68 and is all-in, SB calls $5.60 and is all-in

      Flop: ($20.30) 2 7 9 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
      Turn: ($20.30) 9 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
      River: ($20.30) K (2 players, 2 are all-in)

      Results:
      $20.30 pot ($1.00 rake)
      Final Board: 2 7 9 9 K
      Hero showed Q Q and won $0.00 (-$10 net)
      SB showed A A and won $19.30 ($9.30 net)


      BTN and SB are TAGy over 2k and 1k hands respectivly, I didnt think that players at this limit were able to Call As and Ks here anticpateing the Sqz, so Ithought it was more likley that SB had a hand like 9-Js?
  • 3 replies
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hi BigAl,

      Preflop: I would play this hand the same as you.

      First SB calls preflop so while he can have some slowplayed monsters he is usually on weaker hands (because some monsters 3-bet).

      Secondly his larger 4-bet usually doesn't represent a lot of strength.

      So well played, unlucky result.
    • Dracsharp
      Dracsharp
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.01.2010 Posts: 2,478
      His 3b shows that he doesn't have hand like this, but it also shows he is not bluffing really either and his size was rather convincing too.

      4b stat would be helpful for this, but his Af 1.4 and his 3b 2.8 sows that he is not really a big fan of bluffing, very low Af also points to the possibility of slowplays, but his line doesn't make sense.

      I would find this very hard to let this go against just anyone, but if ever now is a good time assuming you didn't have an aggro 3better image.


      Bogdan can't you see us letting it go due to what we know of him ?

      It was my first tought to go broke agaisnt him but his overall image really doesn't make sense for anything else than nuts.
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Originally posted by Dracsharp
      His 3b shows that he doesn't have hand like this, but it also shows he is not bluffing really either and his size was rather convincing too.

      4b stat would be helpful for this, but his Af 1.4 and his 3b 2.8 sows that he is not really a big fan of bluffing, very low Af also points to the possibility of slowplays, but his line doesn't make sense.

      I would find this very hard to let this go against just anyone, but if ever now is a good time assuming you didn't have an aggro 3better image.


      Bogdan can't you see us letting it go due to what we know of him ?

      It was my first tought to go broke agaisnt him but his overall image really doesn't make sense for anything else than nuts.
      Well, I wouldn't count postflop AF towards his preflop play.

      His 3-bet stat is important but if anything I would assume a guy like this would 3-bet his nuts often, as most of them do. So when he takes this line it does seem out of character but I've seen plenty of guys like him just spaz out and 4-bet TT/JJ or even AQ hands because they think we are bluffing.

      So unless we have any reason to suspect a lot of slow played hands I don't think I can let it go.