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[NL20-NL50] SH NL50 zoom QQ deep vs min 3bet

    • dooleslovs
      Joined: 17.02.2011 Posts: 485
      PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: $25.00
      SB: $61.19
      BB: $50.54
      Hero (UTG): $168.00
      MP: $102.37
      CO: $135.73

      SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has Q:heart: Q:diamond:

      Hero raises to $1.50, fold, CO raises to $3.00, fold, fold, BB calls $2.50, Hero raises to $8.00, CO calls $5.00, BB calls $5.00

      Flop: ($24.25, 3 players) T:spade: 6:heart: 5:heart:
      BB checks, Hero bets $14.00, CO calls $14.00, fold

      Turn: ($52.25, 2 players) 9:heart:
      Hero checks, CO checks

      River: ($52.25, 2 players) 4:spade:
      Hero bets $25.50, CO raises to $53.00, fold

      Vilain looks fishy, 39/26 2/9 3bet after 30 hands. Do you think theres a value bet OTR? Are you beting turn?
  • 1 reply
    • w34z3l
      Joined: 03.08.2009 Posts: 13,331
      Hey dooleslovs,

      If we assume that CO is raising a strong value range CO vs UTG, your 4bet doesn't make much sense. The assumption must therefore be that CO is a fish (because of his raise size) and will 3bet/call with hands like AJ/JJ which is not necessarily the case, but we will assume it is - because if it isn't then flatting is the best option pf.

      One problem is that BB probably has at least a half decent range for calling a 6bb 3bet from CO raise. If you 4bet expecting a call from CO you should also expect a call from the BB due to the increased odds he will be getting. 4betting is a lot less appealing when you cannot isolate yourself vs 1 opponent HU. It may not be a big issue though, seeing as you are also ahead of BB's range - but playing 3way will obviously be higher variance than HU. Flatting 3bet and 4betting larger to fold out BB are both legitimate options imo.

      Flop is a clear cbet multiway.

      Turn is probably a value bet. The reason we are even 4betting pf in the first place is because it is expected this opponent is weak and may be doing some spewy stuff. Worse hands will call.

      As played there may be some thin value on river from Tx/JJ. It's pretty close though. Depending on exactly how bad opponent is there may still be random hands like KQ/KJ/AJ/AQ in his range, so it may be a better option to check/call if villain bluffs frequently.