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[NL20-NL50] NL25sh-QQ 5b Shove or Raise

    • urmo1
      Joined: 02.03.2008 Posts: 718
      CO-22/19/co steal 28/2300 hands/fold to resteal 39(38)
      4bet % 17.2(58) / 4b range 4.3
      What you think about 5betting like 9$ or Shove?
      AK is easier 5b shove but QQ non shove 5b?

      Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BB: $25 (100 bb)
      UTG: $39.13 (156.5 bb)
      MP: $18.74 (75 bb)
      CO: $35.52 (142.1 bb)
      BTN: $17.05 (68.2 bb)
      Hero (SB): $27.93 (111.7 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with Q Q
      2 folds, CO raises to $0.67, BTN folds, Hero raises to $2.20, BB folds, CO raises to $4.85, Hero raises to $27.93 and is all-in, CO calls $23.08

      Flop: ($56.11) J K 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      Turn: ($56.11) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($56.11) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
  • 1 reply
    • mbml
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,779

      Shoving Seems really standard to me and is definitely +EV. What I would like to discuss though, is having alternative options such as min5betting.

      I don't like developing min5betting ranges so much OOP unless
      -CO is known to be a notorious 4bet bluffer, and thus we want to counter him with a ton of min5bet bluffs
      -His 4bet size is smaller, so we can also make smaller min5bets to about 30 big blinds. When we have 70bb left we are still not committed if he 6bets.

      I also don't like making it 9, it's pretty obvious we are not folding when we put in >1/3 of our stack. If he makes it 4.50 and we make it 7, I think we can still 5bet/fold, and we also get a really cheap price to rebluff his 4bet bluffs if we have air.