[NL20-NL50] NL50 A2s 3bet pot

    • double2
      double2
      Coach
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      Joined: 04.11.2008 Posts: 14,642
      Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: $53.93 (107.9 bb)
      BB: $50 (100 bb)
      MP: $124.67 (249.3 bb)
      Hero (CO): $50 (100 bb)
      BTN: $50 (100 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with 2 A
      MP raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $4, 3 folds, MP calls $2.50

      Flop: ($8.75) 3 A 4 (2 players)
      MP checks, Hero bets $5, MP calls $5

      Turn: ($18.75) J (2 players)
      MP checks, Hero checks

      River: ($18.75) 7 (2 players)
      MP bets $12, Hero calls $12

      Results:
      $42.75 pot ($1.92 rake)
      Final Board: 3 A 4 J 7
      MP showed T T and lost (-$21 net)
      Hero showed 2 A and won $40.83 ($19.83 net)


      15k hands
      24/20/8.6%
      open MP 18%
      fold to 3bet 68% (MP 69%)
      4bet range MP 2.0%
      fold to cbet in 3bet pot 52%
      fold to cbet turn in 3bet pot 54%
      WTSD 24%
      WWSF 47%
      Agg freq 46/37/24

      Should I bet flop because I would bet my entire bluff range or should I chk back and induce/pot control?
      I struggled river, not sure if I should have called, but what the hell is villain doing?
  • 3 replies
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
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      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,897
      Hi,

      What hands do you think he defends vs a 3bet here? How does it interact with the board? Now think of 2 things:

      - does cbetting all your air here make sense
      - does cbetting KK here make sense.

      Think about your hand/situation now a bit. :)
    • double2
      double2
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      Joined: 04.11.2008 Posts: 14,642
      Originally posted by EmanuelC16
      Hi,

      What hands do you think he defends vs a 3bet here? How does it interact with the board? Now think of 2 things:

      - does cbetting all your air here make sense
      - does cbetting KK here make sense.

      Think about your hand/situation now a bit. :)
      He prolly calls pre flop something like 99-JJ, AQ, AJs. Maybe wider like 66-88.

      1- I think cbetting my air here is probably fine cause I'm always going for 2 barrels which makes it really tough for him to call with second pair type hands. Maybe I'm wrong and should not 2 barrel my entire bluff range. Maybe save Kxx type board for that? Or some kind of equity.

      2- KK in this spot is pretty much the same hand as A2, with the difference that with the A2 is less likely villain has top pair. So my question stands the same with both hands. Should I value cbet against 88-JJ (and balance my cbet bluffing range) or should I chk back and pot control (and maybe balance the no equity hands that I chk back and give up...)
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
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      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,897
      You touched what I wanted to mention in your second part. If you cbet this, you basically always check to fold. This is a hand with an extra gutter as out, can bluffcatch well since villain is unlikely to have Ax as when you have KK and also you balance your complete air. You should bet quite a bit of air here but definitely not all of it. Cbetting 78cc here for example would be terrible long term and only doable in a vacuum (it can be the correct play there ofc).

      I really prefer checking Ax weak like you have, some midpairs and some air. I can delay cbet air in that case and actually rep Ax and other showdown value hands plus I won't always fold to a bet vs a missed cbet.