[NL20-NL50] NL50sh - CB w/ double gutter

    • Farmarchist
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      Hey,

      enough FE+EQ? Not sure :/

      Poker Stars $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2090644
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      BB: $50.00 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 14, 3B: 8, AF: 5.0, Hands: 270
      UTG: $50.00 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 22, 3B: 6, AF: 0.0, Hands: 41
      MP: $55.82 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 11, 3B: 3, AF: 3.0, Hands: 84
      CO: $38.81 - VPIP: 63, PFR: 13, 3B: 13, AF: 2.0, Hands: 16
      BTN: $57.12 - VPIP: 9, PFR: 4, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 23
      Hero (SB): $66.12 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 15, 3B: 6, AF: 3.7, Hands: 603250

      Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with T :club: A :diamond:
      1 fold, MP raises to $1.50, CO calls $1.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, CO calls $4.50

      Flop: ($14.00) J :club: Q :heart: 8 :diamond: (2 players)
      Hero bets $7.50, CO raises to $32.81, Hero folds
  • 9 replies
    • BogdanPS
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      Hi Farma,

      Preflop: Given that CO is a fish I'm assuming we are 3-betting for thin value? If so I think our 3-bet, especially with a shorter stack fish, is too thin OOP because our hand doesn't not flop enough to barrel with (when it misses) and we can still be dominated by part of his calling range.

      Postflop: As played I think that we have at least 33% FE here to bet and at least break even but it's really close. Villain should have small pairs and connectors that may fold despite the board being really connected.
    • Farmarchist
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      Yes preflop was value versus the fish. Should we just fold then and do this when he would have 100bb+ stack?
    • BogdanPS
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      Originally posted by Farmarchist
      Yes preflop was value versus the fish. Should we just fold then and do this when he would have 100bb+ stack?
      Think about how your hand plays when you get called (often). You will have a bloated pot with a hand that doesn't flop great often. And then you have a fish with position that may not fold much.

      So even 100 BB deep I think this is a bit light without more info on the fish.
    • Farmarchist
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      Then we found a leak! Great

      Bottom of our range then?
    • BogdanPS
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      Originally posted by Farmarchist
      Then we found a leak! Great

      Bottom of our range then?
      I'm probably look at AJo, ATs+, KQs, TT+ for 100 BB deep.

      The thing with spots like this is that we are investing 12 BB which means that the flop (assuming it's HU) will be 28 BB.

      After the flop call villain has just 65 BB so pretty much a very small SPR which doesn't give us a ton of room postflop (with a full stack he'd have 88 BB).
    • Farmarchist
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      Ok cool then I'm way too wide in sqzing to iso a fish (being oop)

      I would also have sqzed KQo and KJo/KJs. Is KJs en QKo rly too loose?
    • BogdanPS
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      Originally posted by Farmarchist
      Ok cool then I'm way too wide in sqzing to iso a fish (being oop)

      I would also have sqzed KQo and KJo/KJs. Is KJs en QKo rly too loose?
      KQo is better than KJo for sure. Always look at what your plan is postflop.

      How do you play KJo if called and brick off (which is most of the time)? Same for all the other weak hands in our range. Are you looking to bluff 2 streets?
    • Farmarchist
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      Well vs his weak range we can put some pressure in most spots? :)

      Btw another Q: Do we call most SC's and playable hands in this spot?
    • BogdanPS
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      Originally posted by Farmarchist
      Well vs his weak range we can put some pressure in most spots? :)

      Btw another Q: Do we call most SC's and playable hands in this spot?
      Anything that plays well multiway should be closer to a call yes.

      While we can put pressure on his "weak" range we have to keep in mind that will have almost nothing on most flops so that implies that we are not trying to bluff an unknown fishy guy with little equity. How does that sound? Not too appetizing for my taste :)