[NL2-NL10] [Nl2] JJ

    • TobZero
      TobZero
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.01.2013 Posts: 68
      Hey,

      im not quite sure if my line of thought was appropriate for that hand:

      Villian has 52/30/22/46 with 30%steal aswell as 100%cbet. He played hands before where he took massive bluff shots at a dry board with KJo and QTo.
      Preflop and flop i was comfortable calling his 3bet and raise due to his previous behaviour.
      When the turn came and he bet so low i was pretty sure that he didnt have a Ace and put him on 10+K/Q/J.
      I shoved the river as i was convinced to have the best hand with him not holding an Ace.

      Would you have acted different with that kind of read on the player?

      Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      UTG+1: $2 (100 bb)
      UTG+2: $1.86 (93 bb)
      MP1: $2 (100 bb)
      Hero (MP2): $3.27 (163.5 bb)
      MP3: $2.67 (133.5 bb)
      CO: $0.63 (31.5 bb)
      BTN: $2.09 (104.5 bb)
      SB: $2.39 (119.5 bb)
      BB: $2.60 (130 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J J
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0.08, MP3 folds, CO calls $0.08, BTN raises to $0.24, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.16, CO calls $0.16

      Flop: ($0.75) 2 2 T (3 players)
      Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, CO folds

      Turn: ($1.75) A (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $0.12, Hero calls $0.12

      River: ($1.99) 2 (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.92, BTN calls $1.23 and is all-in

      Results:
      $4.45 pot ($0.16 rake)
      Final Board: 2 2 T A 2
      Hero showed J J and lost (-$2.09 net)
      BTN showed Q Q and won $4.29 ($2.20 net)
  • 3 replies
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hi TobZero,

      Preflop: I'm assuming his 3-bet is 22%? If that's the case, especially after a squeeze, I'd simply 4-bet for value (and get it in).

      Postflop: Bet sizing tells would be important (from the other bluff hands) but in general if you think villain can bluff wide why not check to him on the river and call?

      As soon as we shove we take bluffing away from him.
    • TobZero
      TobZero
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.01.2013 Posts: 68
      Yes his 3bet was 22%.
      I thought about shoving after the squeeze but was hold back by past JJ experiences where i learned that it can turn into a nightmare pretty fast once there is any Q/K/A on the flop.
      Next time i will try to be more solid and put more focus on the given situation than on past experience!

      Postflop: His bet sizing was exactly the same as before, 2/3pot - thats why i called the raise at all.
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Originally posted by TobZero
      Yes his 3bet was 22%.
      I thought about shoving after the squeeze but was hold back by past JJ experiences where i learned that it can turn into a nightmare pretty fast once there is any Q/K/A on the flop.
      Next time i will try to be more solid and put more focus on the given situation than on past experience!

      Postflop: His bet sizing was exactly the same as before, 2/3pot - thats why i called the raise at all.
      Yeh, if he does 3-bet a lot JJ should be far ahead of his range. I prefer the 4-bet here more also because there's another guy in the pot that we don't want to allow to see the flop with us and we will play OOP to two people and we will see overcards often.