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[NL20-NL50] 50shz KK UTG

    • AtrociousNightmare
      AtrociousNightmare
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.04.2010 Posts: 1,185
      Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BTN: $91.15 (182.3 bb)
      SB: $48.99 (98 bb)
      BB: $13.70 (27.4 bb)
      Hero (UTG): $99.58 (199.2 bb)
      MP: $66 (132 bb)
      CO: $53.15 (106.3 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with K K
      Hero raises to $1.50, MP folds, CO raises to $4, 3 folds, Hero raises to $10, CO calls $6

      Flop: ($20.75) 6 Q T (2 players)
      Hero bets $14.70, CO calls $14.70

      Turn: ($50.15) Q (2 players)
      Hero bets $74.88 and is all-in, CO calls $28.45 and is all-in

      River: ($107.05) 8 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

      Results:
      $107.05 pot ($3.00 rake)
      Final Board: 6 Q T Q 8
      Hero showed K K and won $0.00 (-$53.15 net)
      CO showed Q A and won $104.05 ($50.90 net)

      VPIP: 45, PFR: 32, 3B: 28, AF: 2,0, Hands: 60

      Another one who called my 4Bet.
      Again I usually put them on TT-QQ, AK, sometimes AQs.
      The 2nd Queen made me fear less his set, and the AQ is pretty rare. (apparently not)
      Thoughts?
  • 3 replies
    • w34z3l
      w34z3l
      Coach
      Coach
      Joined: 03.08.2009 Posts: 13,331
      Hey AtrociousNightmare,

      4bet is fine in this instance. I wouldn't necessarily take AA/KK out of opponents range.

      You want to cbet for value on the flop.

      The turn is not a good card. Against the range you assigned of QQ-TT, AQs+, AKo, you still have 63% equity. You can value bet turn but only if you expect villain to always call with AK/JJ. If you don't think this is the case you'd be better off check/calling and hoping villain may sometimes bluff or check-down.
    • KillerFishes
      KillerFishes
      Bronze
      Joined: 11.07.2010 Posts: 2,313
      Hey w34z3l .. :)

      if you go for ch/c ott and opponent plays chb, do you ever ch/c river? Imho it's 99.99% Qx, because any bluff/semibluff will just shove ott, right? But I can't see me thin vbetting on blank river too .. so I'd probably just hope for sd :) .. losing value here?

      thanks!
    • w34z3l
      w34z3l
      Coach
      Coach
      Joined: 03.08.2009 Posts: 13,331
      Originally posted by KillerFishes
      if you go for ch/c ott and opponent plays chb, do you ever ch/c river? Imho it's 99.99% Qx, because any bluff/semibluff will just shove ott, right? But I can't see me thin vbetting on blank river too .. so I'd probably just hope for sd :) .. losing value here?
      Yeah, I agree calling the river is really awkward. It's debatable whether he'd ever pure-bluff for half pot.

      I think the chance of him betting river after he checks back the turn is really low though. It's hard to see him ever checking back a Qx on the turn. Then again it's difficult to see what other hands he could be doing it with unless he catches a miracle river, so check/fold is probably fine.