[NL20-NL50] AJs 4 way

    • mlatasrb
      mlatasrb
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      iPoker - $0.20 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BB: 131.05 BB
      UTG: 112.75 BB
      MP: 27.75 BB
      CO: 76.6 BB
      Hero (BTN): 156.95 BB
      SB: 130.55 BB

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:diamond: J:diamond:

      UTG raises to 4 BB, fold, CO calls 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB, fold, BB calls 3 BB

      Flop: (16.5 BB, 4 players) 5:diamond: J:heart: 7:diamond:
      BB bets 14 BB, fold, CO calls 14 BB, Hero calls 14 BB

      Turn: (58.5 BB, 3 players) 8:club:
      BB bets 50 BB, fold, fold

      BB wins 55.6 BB


      180 hands UTG, VPIP 15, PFR 10. ft3b 60%
      CO unknown
      BB 500 hands, VPiP26, PFR 20, 3bet 3, AF flo 4.5, turn 7.5


      I was not sure preflop if it is better fold or call because it is suited, but I could be dominated by UTG.

      FLop is perfect for me, I could go all in HU, but 4way when BB donks I think it is almost always set, and I call just to hit flush, and turn is obvious nuts.
  • 5 replies
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hi mlatasrb,

      Preflop: CO is a fish (stack size) so we should definitely 3-bet here preflop to Isolate him. I'd make it 14 BB or so.

      Postflop: As played it's possible that BB can donk worse Jx. Afterall he is aggro over a big sample and Jx is more likely than 7 combos of sets and given our big hand I think we should raise the flop.

      Why do you put him on the nuts always? Aggro player can even semi bluff there.
    • mlatasrb
      mlatasrb
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      I almost never saw somebody playing so aggro 4 way with Jx. I even block AJ, so I can hope he has KJ. He cant have nuts fd, so I dont think he would bet turn so big with fd, or Jx. His calling range preflop is mostly PP
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Originally posted by mlatasrb
      I almost never saw somebody playing so aggro 4 way with Jx. I even block AJ, so I can hope he has KJ. He cant have nuts fd, so I dont think he would bet turn so big with fd, or Jx. His calling range preflop is mostly PP
      I agree that the turn is usually a super strong hand, given his bet size. But I was talking mostly about the flop.

      How would you play KJ/QJ/JT there? Ck/call with fish in the middle? Ck/fold?
    • mlatasrb
      mlatasrb
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      Sure, I would bet flop. I was not so much afraid on flop that he has set, but I think there is no need to raise, because why would I need to protect from weaker KJ? I have nice hand, which can turn into nuts, and he could have fd as well.
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Originally posted by mlatasrb
      Sure, I would bet flop. I was not so much afraid on flop that he has set, but I think there is no need to raise, because why would I need to protect from weaker KJ? I have nice hand, which can turn into nuts, and he could have fd as well.
      But we don't want to protect, that's not why we raise. We raise for value before action killing cards come down. Like Q+ or flush cards. And we can get them to put money in the pot with a lot worse (both players).