[NL20-NL50] set slow play

    • daisuke3823
      Joined: 05.02.2008 Posts: 8,321
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:


      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      BU (Hero):

      Preflop: Hero is BU with 5, 5.
      MP2 folds, MP3 raises to $0.75, CO folds, Hero calls $0.75, SB folds, BB calls $0.50.

      Flop: ($2.35) 5, 3, 9 (3 players)
      BB checks, MP3 bets $1.75, Hero calls $1.75, BB folds.

      Turn: ($5.85) 4 (2 players)
      MP3 bets $4.25, Hero calls $4.25.

      River: ($14.35) 8 (2 players)
      MP3 bets $10.25, Hero raises to $21.33(All-In), MP3 folds, Hero gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $24.6.
          687 hands  vpip20 pfr17 af4,9 wtsd25 w$SD60 flop CB75  turn 75  river 75            

      I normally raise on the flop since there is flush draw,but his turn CB is high,so I decided to go raise on the turn.
      but he bets big on the turn,so I thought he would bet on the river as well,so went slow play again.
      and it worked,was my play okey?
  • 3 replies
    • Desultory
      Joined: 06.02.2013 Posts: 129
      Calling flop allows you to rep 88-66 and flush draws and possible keeps big blind in to raise worse or call worse. This is particularly good play vs barrely villains.

      The turn cbet size isn't massive (72% pot) is normal ish.
      So deciding to trap because of this isn't the best logic. The below is better logic VV

      I would almost always raise the turn, especially at this level. I don't think he is folding TP+ like ever. He also has loads of draws that you can get value from that he may give up on river. In regards to sizing I just make it 16+ because I think guys are always calling draws whatever size you make it at this level.

      As played, I don't think its terrible. The guy has really high Aggression freq, so he probably just barrel complete air. From that respect you do get more money from air hands, but this board specifically because the turn is so drawy - I think a raise is better.

      But just to reiterate, your line isn't terrible
    • daisuke3823
      Joined: 05.02.2008 Posts: 8,321
      hmm raise to $16 on the turn?
    • Desultory
      Joined: 06.02.2013 Posts: 129
      Yep, I suggest so big at these limits because I think guys can't fold draws - even 20/17 players. I doubt hes folding any overpairs when you can potentially be perceived to have 77,66,44 or 9x, but largely depends on if he thinks your a reg and you play with him alot.

      If the latter is true then maybe a normal sized raise is better($10ish). But I just don't give people credit for thinking and try and get it in on the turn by making a committing raise without shoving. That can be 16$ which I think leaves you $10ish behind.

      The theory is that he will fold to a shove but not want to fold vs a spazzy type raise.