[NL2-NL10] NL10 JJ OOP Fold over pair??

    • zachrina
      zachrina
      Bronze
      Joined: 05.12.2012 Posts: 934
      Full Tilt, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
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      MP1: $4.31 (43.1 bb)
      MP2: $8.77 (87.7 bb)
      MP3: $3.50 (35 bb)
      CO: $7 (70 bb)
      BTN: $5.27 (52.7 bb)
      SB: $19.96 (199.6 bb)
      Hero (BB): $11.08 (110.8 bb)
      UTG+2: $15.47 (154.7 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with J J
      CO posts BB OOP, 4 folds, CO raises to $0.35, BTN calls $0.35, SB folds, Hero calls $0.25

      Flop: ($1.10) 8 4 7 (3 players)
      Hero bets $0.77, CO raises to $3.41, 1 fold, Hero????Results:
      $2.64 pot ($0.17 rake)
      Final Board: 8 4 7
      CO mucked and won $2.47 ($1.35 net)
      BTN mucked and lost (-$0.35 net)
      Hero mucked J J and lost (-$1.12 net)


      Hi,

      CO is a fish playing 45/23, but only over a very small sample of 31 hands(not enough to draw a real conclusion i think).
      I decide to just call pre which I think is fine here multi way. Then lead out on the flop which I also think is fine. After the big raise by villain I notice that if I call I will almost certainly be facing the rest of his stack to get to show down. So it's all in or fold really isn't it? And there's not many turn cards I would like to see if he has over cards, of course I could be beat already to sets or overpairs??

      Thoughts?

      TY Zach
  • 1 reply
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hi Zach,

      Preflop: Given that both villains are fishy/short and that CO posted this should be an easy 3-bet for value preflop.

      I would make it 1.3 or so and go with the hand against either of them.

      Deep or even 100 BB deep the call is better but given the stack sizes I like it a lot less.

      As played just donk bigger and I'd go with the hand against the fishy guy. Otherwise we shouldn't look at donking and possibly inducing raises from the PFR.