[NL20-NL50] 25shz JTs MP

    • AtrociousNightmare
      AtrociousNightmare
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.04.2010 Posts: 1,185
      Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BTN: $29.88 (119.5 bb)
      SB: $9.82 (39.3 bb)
      BB: $19.98 (79.9 bb)
      UTG: $28.13 (112.5 bb)
      Hero (MP): $44.22 (176.9 bb)
      CO: $26.84 (107.4 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP with J T
      UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.75, CO folds, BTN calls $0.75, 2 folds

      Flop: ($1.85) 6 2 7 (2 players)
      Hero bets $1, BTN calls $1

      Turn: ($3.85) 6 (2 players)
      Hero bets $2, BTN calls $2

      River: ($7.85) 5 (2 players)
      Hero bets $4.97, BTN raises to $9.94, Hero calls $4.97

      Results:
      $27.73 pot ($1.52 rake)
      Final Board: 6 2 7 6 5
      BTN showed 7 7 and won $26.21 ($12.52 net)
      Hero mucked J T and lost (-$13.69 net)

      VPIP: 27, PFR: 19, 3B: 6, AF: 0,3, Hands: 78

      He was super passive so I didn't feel too well on river.
      I thought of a better flush and FH.

      Can I find a fold here on river?
      If not for this amount of a raise, for what amount?
  • 5 replies
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      I think this is a pokerstove spot so why dont u try it out? Give him fullhouses and higher flushes. I think we could potentially find a fold here with the j high flush. Probably not folding king high flushes or better.
    • AtrociousNightmare
      AtrociousNightmare
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.04.2010 Posts: 1,185
      Originally posted by mbml
      I think this is a pokerstove spot so why dont u try it out? Give him fullhouses and higher flushes. I think we could potentially find a fold here with the j high flush. Probably not folding king high flushes or better.
      Do you mean something like equilator?
      If I give him FHs and higher flushes, how am I ever going to win?
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      Yeah Pokerstrategy Equilab.

      Oh i mean flushes, he can have some lower flushes too. Test out various assumptions, give yourself nut flush and king high and queen high and jack high flush. Then see how your equity changes here and whether you have the necessary 28% equity to call the raise here.

      Thanks.
    • AtrociousNightmare
      AtrociousNightmare
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.04.2010 Posts: 1,185
      Originally posted by mbml
      Yeah Pokerstrategy Equilab.

      Oh i mean flushes, he can have some lower flushes too. Test out various assumptions, give yourself nut flush and king high and queen high and jack high flush. Then see how your equity changes here and whether you have the necessary 28% equity to call the raise here.

      Thanks.
      I tried this:

      Board: 6:heart: 2:diamond: 7:club:  6:diamond:  5:diamond:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      Hero   11.11%  11.11%   0.00% { JdTd }
      Villain   88.89%  88.89%   0.00% { 77-55, 22, AdKd, AdQd, KdQd, AdJd, KdJd, QdJd, AdTd, KdTd, QdTd, Ad9d, Kd9d, Qd9d, Ad8d, Kd8d, Qd8d, 9d8d, Ad7d, Kd7d, Qd7d, 9d7d, 8d7d, Ad6d, Kd6d, Qd6d, Ad5d, Kd5d, Ad4d, Ad3d, Ad2d }


      His range is FHs, Quads, Adxd, Qd6d+, Kd5d+, 9d8d, 8d7d, 9d7d

      But I should need 17.92%, so it's a fold.
      Is this all right?


      EDIT: wait why 28%? god I always get confused with these calculations.
    • mbml
      mbml
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      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      Oops my bad, you are right. I made an error by taking 4.97/17.79 which is wrong.

      Pot odds = Amt to call / Total Pot after calling = 4.97 / (7.85+9.94+9.94) = 17.93%

      I agree he has A2s+, but you gave him too many K high and Q high flushes. I don't think he has Q8s or K7s preflop. He would probably fold all those given the starting positions. This would be a different matter altogether if it were BvB.