[NL2-NL10] nl5 QQ

    • DrRaab
      DrRaab
      Bronze
      Joined: 05.12.2011 Posts: 694
      Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
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      UTG+1: $13.47 (269.4 bb)
      UTG+2: $6.77 (135.4 bb)
      Hero (MP1): $5 (100 bb)
      MP2: $5.23 (104.6 bb)
      MP3: $1.77 (35.4 bb)
      CO: $17.49 (349.8 bb)
      BTN: $5.35 (107 bb)
      SB: $5.64 (112.8 bb)
      BB: $2 (40 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q Q
      2 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, 2 folds, CO calls $0.20, 3 folds

      Flop: ($0.47) 2 K J (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.30, CO calls $0.30

      Turn: ($1.07) A (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

      River: ($1.87) T (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.80, CO folds

      villain was 30/14 in 160 hands he bet a good % of the turn when checked to.
      I think i should have bet the turn because it would be unlikely he would have a flush draw with the cards on the flop and the fact i have a queen as well. i called as it looked like a weak sizing.
      Not sure about my donk on the river
  • 3 replies
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,698
      Hi.

      Flop: I think I much prefer checking here vs a bad player. I think we can definitely value bet the Flop for thin value but I think in general, most bad players misplay vs Flop checks big time.

      They either completely put u on air after you bet Turn and River (which makes them call down 2 streets with every JX and maybe even lower pairs) or they start bluffing in an imbalanced manner (which makes bluff catching really profitable).

      Turn: Why are you betting here? Are you trying to get value from worse? Are you trying to fold out better? If you can't find a good reason to bet, you are better off checking.

      Thanks.
    • DrRaab
      DrRaab
      Bronze
      Joined: 05.12.2011 Posts: 694
      so is this what you mean about checking the flop? I know this was more towards to get extra value on later streets.

      Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players
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      MP3: $3.27 (65.4 bb)
      CO: $5 (100 bb)
      BTN: $2 (40 bb)
      SB: $1.95 (39 bb)
      BB: $5.07 (101.4 bb)
      MP1: $7.42 (148.4 bb)
      Hero (MP2): $5.07 (101.4 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A K
      MP1 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, 3 folds, SB calls $0.18, BB folds

      Flop: ($0.45) 4 4 A (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks

      Turn: ($0.45) Q (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $0.20, SB calls $0.20

      River: ($0.85) 9 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $0.55, SB folds

      Results:
      $0.85 pot ($0.04 rake)
      Final Board: 4 4 A Q 9
      SB mucked and lost (-$0.40 net)
      Hero mucked A K and won $0.81 ($0.41 net)
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,698
      Nope.

      With AK, we can go for 3 streets of value. Just bet Flop Turn River. You are losing a lot of value vs worse AX hands.

      With QQ, we definitely cannot bet 3 streets and expect to get called by worse very often.