[NL20-NL50] nl20 Weird Flop Spot vs Regs

    • Ghartman
      Joined: 28.10.2011 Posts: 273
      $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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      Seat 1 is the button
      Seat 1: Player1 ( €22.22 EUR ) - VPIP: 15, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AF: 6.0, Hands: 515
      Seat 2: Player2 ( €20.00 EUR ) - VPIP: 25, PFR: 21, 3B: 10, AF: 3.3, Hands: 1611
      Seat 3: Player3 ( €25.63 EUR ) - VPIP: 53, PFR: 13, 3B: 6, AF: 2.2, Hands: 578

      Seat 4: Hero ( €27.37 EUR ) - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 9, AF: 2.1, Hands: 78846
      Seat 5: Player5 ( €21.00 EUR ) - VPIP: 19, PFR: 16, 3B: 5, AF: 4.4, Hands: 286
      Seat 6: Player6 ( €20.00 EUR ) - VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 3, AF: 4.0, Hands: 165
      Player2 posts small blind [€0.10 EUR].
      Player3 posts big blind [€0.20 EUR].

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q Q
      Hero raises to $0.60, 3 folds, SB raises to $1.80, BB calls $1.60, Hero calls $1.20

      Flop: ($5.40) K A T (3 players)
      SB bets $4.40, BB folds, Hero???

      Ok, this may not look like a very tough spot at all, but this hand really stood out from my last few sessions and I had been looking for it so I could post it.

      A standard open with QQ and I get raised by the SB, a standard TAG reg. Now usually I'm happy to stack off here but the BB comes along who is the weirdest reg I've ever seen! He always open limps but he seems really good post flop and always seems to make people make mistakes against him. Anyhow, at the time, I just thought he was a recreational player so, once he called, I just overcalled to keep him in the pot.

      Now look at this flop! I'm probably flipping vs SB's range once the BB folds to his pretty big bet:

      Board: A:club: K:club: T:club:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      MP2    51.13%  49.46%   1.67% { QdQc }
      BU     48.87%  47.20%   1.67% { TT+, AJs+, AJo+ }

      But I don't have many implieds as, if a :club: comes it's obvious and if a Jack comes it's the same. So what should I be doing here vs a standard TAG reg here? Should I just shove, make a tight fold or call? Let me know what you think.

  • 1 reply
    • mbml
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,779

      Preflop: I think this is a very clear 4bet for value. SB is loose and aggro, perhaps he is capable of 3betting light vs UTG. Add the dead money from BB, and the possibility that he can call your 4bet light, and this is an easy 4bet.

      I would make it 5 or 5.50.

      Flop: Just shove. I don't think you can call when he bets so large, we pretty much have no implied odds. We should also shove our sets and flushes here.

      I also think AJ and AQ should definitely bet/fold the Flop here (I don't know if he will, but he should).