[NL20-NL50] 25shz QQ CO

    • AtrociousNightmare
      AtrociousNightmare
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.04.2010 Posts: 1,185
      Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BTN: $41.17 (164.7 bb)
      SB: $71.16 (284.6 bb)
      BB: $29.76 (119 bb)
      UTG: $41.45 (165.8 bb)
      MP: $21.45 (85.8 bb)
      Hero (CO): $78.85 (315.4 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with Q Q
      2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BTN raises to $2.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $2

      Flop: ($5.85) 2 J J (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $3.64, Hero calls $3.64

      Turn: ($13.13) 3 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $8.19, Hero calls $8.19

      River: ($29.51) T (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $26.59 and is all-in, Hero folds

      Results:
      $29.51 pot ($1.62 rake)
      Final Board: 2 J J 3 T
      BTN mucked and won $27.89 ($13.31 net)
      Hero mucked Q Q and lost (-$14.58 net)

      VPIP: 21, PFR: 19, 3B: 8, AF: 16,0, Hands: 603
      His 3Bet vs me: 11
      His AF distributes like this: 12, 32, 9 (F, T, R)
      WTSD: 25
      W$SD (no small pots): 62

      With 100BB I'm broke PF here.
      But we are deeper so I decide to flat.

      On flop I basically decide to call down.
      ...if it wasn't for the all-in on river.
      KK/AA/TT are also part of his range, as well as some jacks.
      I don't see what else could go for 3 streets of value like that until broke for 164BB.
  • 3 replies
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      Hi.

      He doesn't value bet a worse hand IMO. But he can have bluffs. I Think you have to call here. Your range looks so much like 99/88/77 and I think your hand is underrepresented to some extent.

      In these positions vs an aggro BTN I am usually 4bet bluffing a lot even with deeper stacks so I'm generally able to 4b/6b QQ profitably with the right dynamics. Without these dynamics QQ is definitely not a 4bet preflop.
    • AtrociousNightmare
      AtrociousNightmare
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.04.2010 Posts: 1,185
      Originally posted by mbml
      Hi.

      He doesn't value bet a worse hand IMO. But he can have bluffs. I Think you have to call here. Your range looks so much like 99/88/77 and I think your hand is underrepresented to some extent.

      In these positions vs an aggro BTN I am usually 4bet bluffing a lot even with deeper stacks so I'm generally able to 4b/6b QQ profitably with the right dynamics. Without these dynamics QQ is definitely not a 4bet preflop.
      I'm still more conservative when it comes to WTSD compared to 6max regulars. I don't really call 2 streets like that too often at all so I thought at that moment I was pretty easy to read and easy to see I was pretty strong, and despite that he went all-in on river so I just thought he was ahead.

      In regards to preflop, I have to be honest and say I have no idea what the world of poker is after a 4Bet yet, not at that level yet. :( but I'm studying!
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      I think people are usually less likely to let go of second pair on the turn when the top card is paired. Besides he is aggro which also gives u more incentive to cc turn as well.