[NL2-NL10] bb T9s

    • Imimba1
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      Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 2112568
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      SB: $13.41 - VPIP: 61, PFR: 16, 3B: 7, AF: 3,8, Hands: 97, donk:29%(dont know what he donks with), he 2ndbarreldonked 2/2 before
      Hero (BB): $10.00 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 16, 3B: 4, AF: 2,0, Hands: 107406
      UTG: $12.01 - VPIP: 10, PFR: 4, 3B: 0, AF: 0,6, Hands: 52
      CO: $15.92 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 18, 3B: 5, AF: 3,0, Hands: 94
      BTN: $21.74 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 24, 3B: 17, AF: 9,0, Hands: 83,

      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with 9 :spade: T :spade:
      2 folds, BTN raises to $0.30, SB calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.20

      Flop: ($0.90) K :spade: J :spade: 5 :club: (3 players)
      SB bets $0.70, Hero?
      BU has a wide range here imo, I think we can call this, because we have position, and villain looksl ike 2ndbarrel happy, so we have implied odds.
      Or raise for FE with out huge equity?
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    • MisClick
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      Regarding the idea of playing a draw: I just wanted to say that if I SB likes to second barrel, then I think it is not that good to have draws in my hand, as I won't be able to get a free card to see to the river. Just to mention that my logic there goes towards leaving a hand more than sticking with it.

      About what to do on the flop I think I tend to fold unless I know my villains. Reason is that I am being sandwiched, SB seems strong, BU hasn't acted yet and seems pretty aggressive, and my draw might not even be that good. I think I will find it too hard to play unless I can see a turn taking the initiative and in position. For this I should raise the flop as you mention. However, I don't like to raise in this spot unless I feel I have FE here as my hand does not have a piece of showdown value (AsTs, for example, might be different...just). In any case I'd like to know who I am playing if I go for the raise. In general I find the situation pretty awkward so I might just go and fold it...Interested to see what HJ says as it is one of the tricky spots for me :f_confused:
    • kymupa
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      Hello,

      Preflop calling is fine.

      On the flop I think folding is way too weak here. This is one of the best boards for us and if we fold here then just fold preflop.
      I don't really like raising either - I don't think we have a lot of fold equity here against SB and by raising we are aiming mostly for that - to make him fold and have decent equity if get called.
      So, I would usually call his donk here and reevaluate on the turn.

      Best,
      Plamen
    • MisClick
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      I like this hand, so I will extract as much as I can if you don't mind :D

      If we call and BU raise I assume we throw away the hand?
      As SB likes second barreling, do we call second barrel on turn (assuming we didn't hit): a) 3 way b) 2 way ?
      Thanks :heart:
    • MisClick
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      (sorry, forgot to click the advise button in the post above)
    • kymupa
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      It's cool that you have questions.

      So, if BU raises here, it quite much depends on his sizing and whether or not SB is continuing.
      Basically, I don't expect BU to raise draws here (unless he has AsQs) so I think we can call here if we are given good odds.

      If we call and miss on the turn, I would fold against a bet if we are three way, but I'd call in heads up pot.
      This depends on the odds of course.
    • Imimba1
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      Originally posted by kymupa
      It's cool that you have questions.

      So, if BU raises here, it quite much depends on his sizing and whether or not SB is continuing.
      Basically, I don't expect BU to raise draws here (unless he has AsQs) so I think we can call here if we are given good odds.

      If we call and miss on the turn, I would fold against a bet if we are three way, but I'd call in heads up pot.
      This depends on the odds of course.
      Why would you fold 3way, and call HU?
    • kymupa
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      Because if we are three-way we are in a sandwich which means we still have a player behind left to act, who could easily have a better draw (Qsxs/Asxs) which means we would have reversed implied odds.

      If we are heads up against the potentially fishy guy I have no problems calling the turn since I expect us to have a lot of implied odds.
    • Imimba1
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      Originally posted by kymupa
      Because if we are three-way we are in a sandwich which means we still have a player behind left to act, who could easily have a better draw (Qsxs/Asxs) which means we would have reversed implied odds.

      If we are heads up against the potentially fishy guy I have no problems calling the turn since I expect us to have a lot of implied odds.
      +1
    • Imimba1
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      +1