[NL20-NL50] Nl50sh JJ

    • jachis
      jachis
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      Joined: 07.04.2008 Posts: 745
      PartyGaming - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BB: $53.49
      UTG: $38.50
      MP: $36.50
      CO: $61.36
      BTN: $83.42
      Hero (SB): $50.00

      Hero posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has J:club: J:diamond:

      fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $5.00, Hero calls $3.50

      Flop: ($10.00, 2 players) Q:diamond: 6:diamond: 6:club:
      Hero checks, BB bets $6.33, Hero calls $6.33

      Turn: ($22.66, 2 players) K:spade:
      Hero checks, BB checks

      River: ($22.66, 2 players) 6:heart:
      Hero checks, BB bets $21.53, fold

      BB wins $21.53

      Villain 16/10, resteals BBvsSB 10%, cbet 3b pot 100%, turn 67%.

      I think it would be ok to 4bet/call here, as played folding is fine?
  • 5 replies
    • w34z3l
      w34z3l
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      Joined: 03.08.2009 Posts: 13,295
      Hey jachis,

      If possible I would like info on the sample size of stats. "resteals BBvsSB 10%" how many opportunites? "16/10" how many hands? General 3bet stat?

      Seems unlikely to me a 16/10 has a resteal BBvsSB of 10%. Against very tight villains you might as-well just fold JJ OOP in this spot since you will be behind villains range. 4bet/call JJ against a tight villain probably sucks unless you have some history/dynamic.

      Assuming villain is 3betting wide enough, flatting OOP is probably going to be a better option than 4betting, because you unlikely have the dynamic to profitably 4bet/call and you don't want to turn your hand into a bluff.

      Postflop is fine imo.
    • jachis
      jachis
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      16/10 over 1,4k hands
      3bet BBvsSB is now 14% (3/22) yes not huge sample.
      And in autonotes I see he has gone broke TT+ AQ+ dont know in which spots thou. Thats why I think going broke pre should be ok.
    • jachis
      jachis
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      Joined: 07.04.2008 Posts: 745
      Also one minute ago against same villain

      $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
      5 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG ($42.70) 85bb
      CO ($88.40) 177bb
      BTN ($79.57) 159bb
      hero (SB) ($50.64) 101bb
      BB ($59.24) 118bb

      Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 5 players) hero is SB 9:spade: 9:heart:
      2 folds, BTN raises to $1.50, hero raises to $5, 1 fold, BTN goes all-in $78.07, hero goes all-in $45.64

      Flop: 7:spade: 4:heart: 3:diamond: ($101.78, 2 players, 2 all-in)

      Turn: 2:club: ($101.78, 2 players, 2 all-in)

      River: J:club: ($101.78, 2 players, 2 all-in)

      Final Pot: $101.78
      BTN shows
      A:spade: Q:heart:
      hero shows
      9:spade: 9:heart:

      hero wins $98.78 (net +$48.14)

      BTN collects $57.86 (net -$21.71)
    • w34z3l
      w34z3l
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      Joined: 03.08.2009 Posts: 13,295
      Originally posted by jachis
      16/10 over 1,4k hands
      3bet BBvsSB is now 14% (3/22) yes not huge sample.
      And in autonotes I see he has gone broke TT+ AQ+ dont know in which spots thou. Thats why I think going broke pre should be ok.
      Yeah if he's really going to auto-stack with TT+/AQ+, 4bet/calling is going to be ok seeing as you have 47% equity vs that range, maybe some fold equity too, and also the dead money already in pot.

      He looks like he might just be a fish though. 4bet shove vs 3bet is non-standard in most games. You probably have a much better edge playing the JJ post-flop instead of shipping it in pf, so I think your overall line is decent.
    • jachis
      jachis
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      Joined: 07.04.2008 Posts: 745
      Interistingly here is his ptr