[NL20-NL50] NL50 SH - JJ: flat in 3bet

    • Lunitis
      Lunitis
      Gold
      Joined: 22.02.2009 Posts: 20,135
      CO: 26/24
      72% fold vs 3bet

      bu: 23/21
      9.3% 3bet
      10% 3bet ip vs co
      36% fold vs 4bet
      3.2% 5bet range
      20k hands



      MP: $58.38 (116.8 bb)
      CO: $25 (50 bb)
      BTN: $54.79 (109.6 bb)
      Hero (SB): $50.68 (101.4 bb)
      BB: $99.92 (199.8 bb)
      UTG: $50 (100 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with J:diamond: J:club:
      2 folds, CO raises to $1.25, BTN raises to $3.50, Hero calls $3.25, 2 folds

      Flop: ($8.75) 9:club: 6:diamond: A:club: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN checks

      Turn: ($8.75) 5:heart: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $4.50, Hero

      I hate so much this spot :f_mad:
  • 3 replies
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,697
      Hi.

      Just 4bet preflop to avoid this spot. Your hand is just so face-up in this situation that you should not really have a cold calling range here vs 3bets vs anyone decent. You'll need to slowplay sometimes and call with speculative hands sometimes to make yourself tougher to play against and I would rather just 4bet everything instead.

      As played, I'm folding to the delayed cbet. Don't think he ever checks back his air on the Flop, so the delayed cbet is likelier to be a weak AX or KK/QQ.

      Thanks.
    • Lunitis
      Lunitis
      Gold
      Joined: 22.02.2009 Posts: 20,135
      My problem is... can i call a jam after 4bet?


             Equity  Vencer  Empate
      MP2    36.19%  35.98%   0.21% { JJ }
      MP3    63.81%  63.60%   0.21% { QQ+, AKs, AKo }



      I think i dont have the dynamic to 4bet/call here. And i feel so stupid to 4bet/fold this hand.
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,697
      1) You should create the dynamic. Start cold 4betting with AQ/AJ/KQ in future. This will force villain to start jamming some AQ and TT. This means that JJ would be an easy 4bet/call here.

      2) I think given the circumstances you can flat the 3bet since you don't have the dynamic. As mentioned previously I prefer having JJ played with a 4bet instead but here I think it's too valuable to use as a 4b/fold and probably we can't 4b/call without dynamic so I suppose calling is fine vs his wide 9-10% range.

      Calling becomes worse as the player gets better. Your range is really obvious and I think he makes really perfect decisions on boards like JTXss. He probably never cbets 234 type of boards when your range only contains AK/AQ/mid pockets

      You can check out Siete777's Gap the Mind series on coldcalling 3bets