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400nl deep bluff

    • pleno1
      pleno1
      Coach
      Coach
      Joined: 19.11.2010 Posts: 5,596
      villain is decent reg, value bets wide.

      Thoughts?

      €2/€4 No Limit Holdem
      Prima
      6 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG (€820.40) 205bb
      UTG+1 (€220) 55bb
      CO (€1,032.35) 258bb
      BTN (€722.10) 181bb
      SB (€1,337.32) 334bb
      Hero (BB) (€1,003.20) 251bb

      Pre-Flop: (€6, 6 players) Hero is BB 6:heart: 8:heart:
      UTG raises to €12, 4 folds, Hero calls €8

      Flop: 2:spade: 4:diamond: 7:club: (€26, 2 players)
      Hero checks, UTG bets €20, Hero calls €20

      Turn: 6:spade: (€66, 2 players)
      Hero checks, UTG bets €44, Hero calls €44

      River: K:heart: (€154, 2 players)
      Hero checks, UTG bets €136, Hero goes all-in €927.20


      He has around, €610 left otr after his €135
  • 5 replies
    • getdotacom
      getdotacom
      Black
      Joined: 06.04.2008 Posts: 608
      U will get called very often here IMO. At least I wouldn't give credit for sets here. First of all because I'd expect u to raise most of them OTT and also people 3bet pp's a lot more when deeper.

      I like raising turn or flop much better and then make a large bet next street. I think we can fold out much stronger range that way, especially when something like K comes.

      P.S. Wouldn't be surprised if he called u with JJ :P
    • Farmarchist
      Farmarchist
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.12.2010 Posts: 14,640
      Originally posted by getdotacom
      U will get called very often here IMO. At least I wouldn't give credit for sets here. First of all because I'd expect u to raise most of them OTT and also people 3bet pp's a lot more when deeper.

      I like raising turn or flop much better and then make a large bet next street. I think we can fold out much stronger range that way, especially when something like K comes.

      P.S. Wouldn't be surprised if he called u with JJ :P
      I tend to agree with this.

      Pleno; why do you call preflop and float that flop (only gs, no backdoorfd)?

      I think raising turn is nice
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,779
      Originally posted by getdotacom
      U will get called very often here IMO. At least I wouldn't give credit for sets here. First of all because I'd expect u to raise most of them OTT and also people 3bet pp's a lot more when deeper.

      I like raising turn or flop much better and then make a large bet next street. I think we can fold out much stronger range that way, especially when something like K comes.

      P.S. Wouldn't be surprised if he called u with JJ :P
      +1
    • BC1989RF
      BC1989RF
      Diamond
      Joined: 09.04.2010 Posts: 846
      we risk 750ish to win 290. seems too much has to work 70% of the time.
      supposedly ppl arent calling less than a set here.
      {sets} = 13 combos here.
      so we need villain to bet > 45ish combos otr.

      JJ+ = 18
      AKss-ATss, A5ss-A3ss, KQss, KJss, QJss, QTss, JTss, T9ss, 98s, 87ss = 15
      89s = 3
      A3s, A5s = 6
      ----
      32
      ---
      ---
      45

      but sometimes he calls AK AA, 7x. on the other hand maybe he barrels off pure air/overcards ott?
      dunno, feels like making it 400 is better.
      also id be surprised if villains is vbetting JJ with this river sizing.

      i prefer turn raise bomb river too tbh.
    • lnternet
      lnternet
      Bronze
      Joined: 19.06.2012 Posts: 782
      pre is too loose.

      flop and turn seem rather standard if your preflop call is good. But vs a tight UT range both of those calls might be a bit optimistic.

      you can raise river sometimes sure. a pair is good for blockers.

      shoving river seems too big. if you have 44 you cant even jam like that. Just go like 2/3-pot sized raise.

      overall just seems spewy