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[NL20-NL50] nl50 sh KK 4bet size?

    • jules97
      jules97
      Bronze
      Joined: 10.06.2012 Posts: 1,449
      24/18 144 hands seems not awful so far
      7.6% 3bet 5/66
      squeeze 22% 2/9

      Any reason to make this bigger?

      PokerStars - €0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: €67.22
      SB: €50.00
      BB: €56.75
      Hero (UTG): €50.60
      MP: €96.72
      CO: €36.02

      SB posts SB €0.25, BB posts BB €0.50

      Pre Flop: (pot: €0.75) Hero has K:club: K:diamond:

      Hero raises to €1.50, fold, CO calls €1.50, BTN raises to €6.50, fold, fold, Hero raises to €15.00, fold, BTN raises to €67.22 and is all-in, Hero calls €35.60 and is all-in

      Flop: (€103.45, 2 players) 8:club: 5:spade: Q:diamond:

      Turn: (€103.45, 2 players) 2:diamond:

      River: (€103.45, 2 players) 6:diamond:

      Hero shows K:club: K:diamond: (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 66%, Flop 86%, Turn 93%)
      BTN mucks K:heart: A:heart: (High Card, Ace) (Pre 34%, Flop 14%, Turn 7%)
      Hero wins €101.45
  • 3 replies
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hi Jules,

      You are making a 30 BB 4-bet here with 100 BB stacks.

      I think we can actually make it smaller here and achieve the same thing (when we bluff we save money, when we do it for value we gain the same as a bigger bet).

      So I'd consider making it between $13-$14.
    • jules97
      jules97
      Bronze
      Joined: 10.06.2012 Posts: 1,449
      Thanks Bogdan,

      Got any general rules or guidelines for 4bet sizing in a squeezed pot when OOP?
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Originally posted by jules97
      Thanks Bogdan,

      Got any general rules or guidelines for 4bet sizing in a squeezed pot when OOP?
      I always look at the facts in front of us.

      1) Stack sizes of players involved
      2) Players involved
      3) Positions

      Based on the above we then decide on our 4-bet range in that particular spot. How many bluffs will we actually have? Do we expect to get called if we 4-bet small?

      In general you want to have 4-bet bluffs which means that you need to find a bet size that saves you the most money when bluffing while keeps your gain from a value 4-bet the same. That's generally around the 25-30 BB mark depending on the money in the pot and open/3-bet sizes.