[NL2-NL10] NL2 KK vs fish

    • Vito992
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      Poker Stars $2.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2119873
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      SB: $3.04 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 20, 3B: 14, AF: 1,9, Hands: 79
      BB: $1.55 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 6, 3B: 0, AF: 1,0, Hands: 176
      UTG: $8.70 - VPIP: 43, PFR: 11, 3B: 4, AF: 2,5, Hands: 93
      MP: $1.00 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 10, 3B: 0, AF: 0,0, Hands: 21
      CO: $5.29 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 11, 3B: 0, AF: 0,8, Hands: 87
      Hero (BTN): $2.00 - VPIP: 13, PFR: 10, 3B: 5, AF: 2,7, Hands: 28300

      Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with K :diamond: K :heart:
      UTG calls $0.02, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.10, SB calls $0.09, 1 fold, UTG raises to $0.28, Hero raises to $0.90, 1 fold, UTG raises to $2.52, Hero calls $1.10 all in

      Flop: ($4.12) 4 :spade: Q :diamond: 8 :diamond: (2 players - 1 is all in)

      Turn: ($4.12) 7 :club: (2 players - 1 is all in)

      River: ($4.12) 3 :club: (2 players - 1 is all in)
  • 7 replies
    • kymupa
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      Hello,

      What exactly is your question here? We have kings and we manage to put the money in so I think this is by far the best play here.
      I would personally 4bet a little bit smaller.

      Best,
      Plamen
    • Vito992
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      BogdanS, you reply to fast :D I was editting my message..


      A lot of times, after this kind of pre-flop play, I bust into Aces. Is there any other possible solution? Or should we just drawn dead, even thought I had a feeling I was against the AA. My thoughts are based on the fact that I'm already 1 month on a break-even.
    • kymupa
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      BogdanS, you reply to fast I was editting my message..
      This is kymupa, not Bogdan.

      Anyways, I would just go broke with QQ+, AK here. When villains play like this they don't always have AA, and usually they tend to have very random hands or something.

      Without a very strong read that he plays only AA this way, I would never fold.
    • Vito992
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      Sorry kymupa (damn, I feel ashamed :rolleyes: ), I was having a conversation with BogdanS in an another thread.

      How often do you recommend to stack out with QQ+, AK against a wish or a LAG?

      PS I have noticed that in micro-stakes a 5bet means a lot of times AA
    • kymupa
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      Hey,

      Don't worry. We both have same avatars so it is easy to mistake us and it isn't that important who is judging the hand, but the discussion.

      So now to it - I would always go broke here with QQ+, AK. I will change my range here if only we have seen the guy taking this line several times with AA only.

      You can be pretty sure that 5betting isn't AA only.
      5betting, in it's definition means reraising a 4bet. Usually, when we are 100bb deep 5betting is usually stacking off, so with this you are trying to say that people only go broke preflop with aces? On NL2? I really doubt that.
      I suggest you take a look in your hand database and use the filter All In Preflop=True and see if this is the case.
    • Vito992
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      You were right. I've found 2 more hands played the same way, but there were also other hands played like that.

      What do you think about 4bet shove with QQ+, AK? Do we lose value if we shove? (assuming we both have 100bb)
    • kymupa
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      Well, I don't like it because if we just shove we can't balance our bluffs (and on higher stakes we do need to have some) plus people might often think they will have fold equity, so I think reraising is better than shoving.