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[NL2-NL10] SH KK Bet sizing??

    • zachrina
      Joined: 05.12.2012 Posts: 934

      I realise that my bet size is too small pre flop?? Should be more like $1.50??
      I cbet 2/3 pot, standard??
      Turn I decide to only bet half pot as I think this will gain the same info as 2/3 bet size ?? and save money when I have to fold to a raise?? I am also pretty sure I'm beat here so do I have to bet to find out?? Suppose I do.
      Villain is a LAG (40/20) but only over 54 hands.


      Full Tilt, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      Hero (BB): $11.07 (110.7 bb)
      UTG: $24.09 (240.9 bb)
      MP: $8.72 (87.2 bb)
      CO: $11.80 (118 bb)
      BTN: $21.57 (215.7 bb)
      SB: $9.75 (97.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with K K
      UTG raises to $0.30, MP calls $0.30, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.20, UTG calls $0.90, MP folds

      Flop: ($2.75) T J 8 (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.92, UTG calls $1.92

      Turn: ($6.59) 9 (2 players)
      Hero bets $3.10, UTG raises to $20.97 and is all-in, Hero ???

      $12.79 pot ($0.85 rake)
      Final Board: T J 8 9
      Hero mucked K K and lost (-$6.22 net)
      UTG mucked and won $11.94 ($5.72 net)
  • 2 replies
    • BogdanPS
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hi Zach,

      Preflop: OOP we can make it 1.3-1.5 especially if villains are fishy (or one of them is).

      Postflop: While flop is fine what's the point of the turn bet? What information do you want to gain?

      We should either bet for value or bluff (or take down dead money) and then we find information.

      We cannot get value because nothing worse calls. We cannot bluff because nothing better folds.

      So we should ck/fold, unfortunately.
    • zachrina
      Joined: 05.12.2012 Posts: 934
      Thanks Bogdan,

      I think this is a definate leak in my game.
      Explains why my non showdown line on my graph is killing my win rate.

      I struggle with the bet for value concept. I suppose I am betting to confirm I am behind and mainly not to appear weak when villain maybe holds only a TP type of hand.
      I feel that if I show weakness by checking then villain could steal the pot with hands like AJ.
      I will get there, one day!