[NL2-NL10] NL4 SH, KJs IP against donking donkey #1

    • dienaszaglis
      dienaszaglis
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.06.2008 Posts: 999
      $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Holdem
      PartyPoker
      6 Players
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      Stacks:
      UTG ($4.25) 106bb 51/2, AF: 6.5, donks 100% in HU pots, 63h
      UTG+1 ($4.26) 107bb
      CO ($4.85) 121bb
      HERO (BTN) ($4) 100bb
      SB ($8.14) 204bb
      BB ($1.83) 46bb

      Pre-Flop: ($0.06, 6 players) HERO is BTN K:heart: J:heart:
      UTG calls $0.04, 2 folds, HERO raises to $0.20, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.16

      Flop: 6:diamond: 6:heart: 10:spade: ($0.46, 2 players)
      UTG bets $0.33, HERO folds

      PRE
      Isolating the fish.

      FLOP
      What would be the general plan against such a villain? Most of the time he donked on the turn as well, like 3/4 pot. Only occurred once - he called flop raise as well (he had TP that time).

      Try to flop a TP hand, close eyes and call him down?
  • 5 replies
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      Hi.

      While I would fold my pure air, I'm not folding such a good hand here. We have 2 overs, backdoor straight draw and backdoor flush draw. I think we can continue on close to half the deck so I would call here for sure.

      Thanks.
    • dienaszaglis
      dienaszaglis
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.06.2008 Posts: 999
      I can expect him to donk till the river and I don`t feel comfortable calling with just K-high.
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      Well on any 9/Q/A/J/K/heart we can call the Turn. That's like 25/46 of Turn cards which is slightly more than 50% of the deck.

      You can fold if he continues barreling on the blank turns. Are you saying he always 3barrels? Or that he just bets Flop and Turn but checks River mostly?

      Cos if he only fires twice and gives up river, we can just double float him on all the good turn cards and bluff when checked to, or valuebet our top pair when checked to.
    • dienaszaglis
      dienaszaglis
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.06.2008 Posts: 999
      Small sample, 3-donk-barrel situation never occurred. But he did 2-barrel in HU pots.
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      I still like my plan then. We can't possibly keep on folding and letting him run us over.

      If his range for leading the Flop is just so wide, we can consider mixing in some bluff raises too on the Flop. While I think there are many players out there who will not donk/fold to a flop raise, vs someone who just has air so often, there's no way that he can have something all that much which can withstand a flop raise.