show me FOLD button please.

    • dushili
      dushili
      Black
      Joined: 04.05.2009 Posts: 3,413
      Hello everyone and welcome to my blog. My name is Alexandr, Im 24 and Im from Russia.

      Im playing 1/2, and I think I can play 2/4 and show the profit there, but the problem is that Im not satisfied by my game. In February Ive played 80k hands 3,6bb/100, but Ive done a lot of big mistakes and lost more then 10 BI as a result. So if my self control would be better my winrate could be 5bb/100 this month.
      Here I want to post my results, mistakes and some tough hands for discussing EVERY DAY.


      PS Sorry for my English (especially grammar). I havent got language practice for 3 years :f_frown:
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    • serverm07
      serverm07
      Basic
      Joined: 08.08.2012 Posts: 1,130
      Privet commrade,

      you mean fold button exists? let me know if you find it, because I have never heard of it either. :D
    • dushili
      dushili
      Black
      Joined: 04.05.2009 Posts: 3,413
      Privet commrade,


      Hi)

      Last day of the February was the worst one(
      results:


      What about push?

      Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is MP: Q, A
      UTG folds, Hero raises to $6, CO folds, BTN calls $6, 2 folds

      22/17/5/28/48 (vpip/pfr/3bet/wtsd/w$sd)
      call open bu - 15%
      bet river - 31, Agg - 25%


      Flop: 8, 5, K ($15, 2 players)
      Hero bets $10, BTN calls $10

      Turn: Q ($35, 2 players)
      Hero bets $21, BTN calls $21

      River: 7 ($77, 2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $48, Hero :f_confused: raises to $163 (All-in)

      ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

      And stupid hand for the dessert :D

      Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is BTN: K, J
      3 folds, Hero raises to $4.4, SB folds, BB raises to $13.6, Hero raises to $30.8, BB raises to $48, Hero calls $17.2

      Flop: Q, 2, 2 ($97, 2 players)
      BB checks, Hero checks

      Turn: K ($97, 2 players)
      BB raises to $211.3 (All-in), Hero calls $152 (All-in)

      Villian 30/25/12.5 regfish.
      3bet bb vs bu 21% fold to 4bet 55% 5bet 28% (range 4%)

      I knew that he is overbeting for value, but it was interesting to see his hand, isnt it? :facepalm: ;(
    • roachru
      roachru
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.01.2007 Posts: 20,474
      Hey, bro :f_biggrin:


      Stats, my opinion:

      How about total Aqq? How about turn Aqq?

      I'm asking, because River Agg 22,9 seems pretty low. But I'm not sure, because I'm using PokerTrakcer and there Cheks aren't included in this parameter (that's why AFq in PT higher, then in HM)

      About hands

      1) How about his float IP on Turn?

      I'm thinking about check/raise line on Turn for us.

      "+"

      * We'll get money from bluffs float/folds
      * We could get fold by Kx (so, we're playing semi-bluff with fold equity vs best hands).
      Note: we block nuts flush, so he can't have a lot of monster for push.
      * We still have eq vs his calls.

      "-"

      * We could get push and lost our FD eq, but I don't see monsters in his range. (KK - 3bets preflop, 88, 55 - often raises flop for value and defence, K8, K5, Q8, Q5 - out of preflop coldcall range, and we're blocking nuts flush, so there aren't a lot of flush combinations + KQ - 2 Qs played out). How about his folds vs Cbet flop IP? How wide we rate his range on Turn?



      "What about push?"


      Hmmmmm... problem that for our FoldEquity opponent have to bet thin value on this board.

      On another hand, we represent very strong hands (QQ+ or flushes and better)

      He haven't KK, QQ and Nuts Flushes. So - that's a very hard decision for him.

      "-"

      * wtst 28, w$sd 48 - he can overplay some hands.


      We need more information - Fold vs Cbet Flop IP, Fold vs Cbet Turn IP, Raise vs Cbet Flop IP, Raise vs Cbet Turn IP, Float River% - all to determine his river bet range here. WTSD and W$SD - how many samples?


      Anyway I'm still thinking that's strong push, because that's really hard call for him. Surely, if we haven't c/r river 88,3 % :f_biggrin: :f_biggrin:

      But I'm really sleepy now) Time to go to bed)))


      2) "I knew that he is overbeting for value, but it was interesting to see his hand, isnt it?"

      I'm thinking, we nearly never beat him here :f_cool:
    • dushili
      dushili
      Black
      Joined: 04.05.2009 Posts: 3,413
      We need more information - Fold vs Cbet Flop IP, Fold vs Cbet Turn IP, Raise vs Cbet Flop IP, Raise vs Cbet Turn IP, Float River% - all to determine his river bet ran.ge here. WTSD and W$SD - how many samples?


      Hi Roach. 12k hands Fold(raise) 52(8)/25(22)/42(0). floats 64/46/53
      Now I see, that my push was very bed. My blocker means nothing, couse he wouldnt fold any flush. I think best line is to ch/call turn and maybe donk good rivers for value. Ch/raising turn also not good vs him, couse he is too "phonish".
      It was a spew move. I didnt think about his range river, just realized, that I have a blocker and shoved :(
    • paukkp
      paukkp
      Gold
      Joined: 17.01.2008 Posts: 7,921
      Hi!

      What about push?


      If your opponent would had WTSD<25 and/or WWSF > 50, I think All-in it would not be bad. But your opponent is more like a callingstation or a paranoiac =) Against such I would not bluff. But I don't think that was a very bad bluff.
    • dushili
      dushili
      Black
      Joined: 04.05.2009 Posts: 3,413
      Hi pauk.

      1) 27/21/7,3/21/47 (vpip/pfr/3bet/wtsd/w$sd) 1k hands
      open utg 18%
      cb 58/62/80. river Ag - 34%. It was first ch/r river.

      Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is MP: A, Q
      UTG raises to $6, Hero calls $6, 4 folds

      Flop: T, A, 4 ($15, 2 players)
      UTG bets $10.68, Hero calls $10.68

      Turn: A ($36.36, 2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets $22, UTG calls $22

      River: 3 ($80.36, 2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets $54, UTG raises to $172.77 (All-in), Hero calls $112.72 (All-in)



      2) and first big mistake in March

      23/19/8/25/55 (vpip/pfr/3bet/wtsd/w$sd) 9k
      co - 31%
      cb 68/67/50 Ag 48/48/27

      Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is BTN: A, Q
      2 folds, CO raises to $6, Hero calls $6, 2 folds

      Flop: T, 3, T ($15, 2 players)
      CO bets $10, Hero calls $10

      Turn: 2 ($35, 2 players)
      CO bets $24.93, Hero calls $24.93

      River: 2 ($84.86, 2 players)
      CO bets $61.39, Hero calls $61.39

      Turn call is bad, even vs cbet 67%. River call is also bad.
    • imbahness
      imbahness
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.09.2009 Posts: 122
      Originally posted by dushili
      Hi pauk.

      1) 27/21/7,3/21/47 (vpip/pfr/3bet/wtsd/w$sd) 1k hands
      open utg 18%
      cb 58/62/80. river Ag - 34%. It was first ch/r river.

      Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is MP: A, Q
      UTG raises to $6, Hero calls $6, 4 folds

      Flop: T, A, 4 ($15, 2 players)
      UTG bets $10.68, Hero calls $10.68

      Turn: A ($36.36, 2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets $22, UTG calls $22

      River: 3 ($80.36, 2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets $54, UTG raises to $172.77 (All-in), Hero calls $112.72 (All-in)



      2) and first big mistake in March

      23/19/8/25/55 (vpip/pfr/3bet/wtsd/w$sd) 9k
      co - 31%
      cb 68/67/50 Ag 48/48/27

      Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is BTN: A, Q
      2 folds, CO raises to $6, Hero calls $6, 2 folds

      Flop: T, 3, T ($15, 2 players)
      CO bets $10, Hero calls $10

      Turn: 2 ($35, 2 players)
      CO bets $24.93, Hero calls $24.93

      River: 2 ($84.86, 2 players)
      CO bets $61.39, Hero calls $61.39

      Turn call is bad, even vs cbet 67%. River call is also bad.
      Hey there dushili,

      Could you explain please your thought process in the AQs hand

      U're getting good odds for the call however what do we expect there to beat? he has all AT combos also TT , 44 , which combos would more likely explain his passive play, he did also catch up with with the BD fd if he had some sort of QJ/KJ/KQ type of hand the only hand we beat is the flop FD, which i don't see any point shoving due to low FE
    • dushili
      dushili
      Black
      Joined: 04.05.2009 Posts: 3,413
      Hi. His cbet river is 80% and I think he should cbet here most of value hands. Ch/r full is fine here, but he got just 1 comb AT and 3comb TT . his river agg is 34%, so I think he could do some big bluffs.
      But now Im not sure if we have a vb river, cuz he cbet turn a lot and I dont see him ch/calling weaker Ax turn + his wtsd is just 21...
    • dushili
      dushili
      Black
      Joined: 04.05.2009 Posts: 3,413
      After analizing database I found some interesting things:

      1)call 22-99 sb, bb vs utg,mp (-332bb/100)

      2) bluff 4bet (without TT+ AK) bu (-680bb/100)

      3) sb, unopened steal 42% 3bb and all sb hands when unopened (with folds) (-19bb/100)
      maybe I should steal more and 2,5 bb?

      4) Most interesting defend bb vs sb - call 19%, 3bet 14% (-110bb/100) (-67bb/100 in January). Found couple of guys, who 3betting 20-25% and calling 30%, and they have +1-5 bb/100. If I defend bb vs sb like them I would win 4500$ more last month :evil:
    • dushili
      dushili
      Black
      Joined: 04.05.2009 Posts: 3,413
      Another mistake vs reg 20/17/10/32/55 229 hands
      open co - 33, fold to 3bet 67%

      Pre-flop: ($3, 4 players) Hero is SB: Q, 8
      CO raises to $6, BTN calls $6, Hero raises to $25, BB folds, CO calls $19, BTN folds

      Flop: 6, 8, J ($58, 2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $38, Hero calls $38

      Turn: 4 ($134, 2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $66, Hero raises to $169.78 (All-in), CO calls $71 (All-in)

      bu is reg too, so I dont expect slowplay monsters pre here . I dont understand his sizing..
    • ErikStenqvist
      ErikStenqvist
      Global
      Joined: 14.01.2013 Posts: 431
      Originally posted by dushili
      So if my self control would be better my winrate could be 5bb/100 this month.
      Hey Alexandr!

      My name is Erik and I will be part of the coaching staff focusing on Tilt, A-Game, Mindset, and Lifecoaching.

      Could you try to explain to me a bit more on what you mean by self control? What situation usually tilt you etc etc. Anything you can think of.

      And don't worry about your English. We'll work through it :)

      Cheers!
    • dushili
      dushili
      Black
      Joined: 04.05.2009 Posts: 3,413
      First of all - Im inattentive person :f_p: . So sometimes I play like here :

      Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is MP: T, KUTG folds, Hero raises to $6, CO folds, BTN calls $6, SB calls $5, BB folds
      Flop: 5, Q, 2 ($20, 3 players)SB checks, Hero bets $14, BTN calls $14, SB folds
      Turn: 5 ($48, 2 players)Hero bets $35, BTN calls $35
      River: Q ($118, 2 players)Hero bets $85.25, BTN raises to $170.5, Hero calls $59.75 (All-in)


      I didnt see second 5 on the board :)

      I have to improve my attentiveness somehow. What do u think about yoga, Erik? Maybe yoga can solve this problem....

      And my biggest leak is that Im afraid to be weak/exploitable. I do bad pre shoves w AQ or TT vs tight guys, or vb river too thin (in spots where I have less then 50% vs opp range), do loose calls river and so on.
    • ErikStenqvist
      ErikStenqvist
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      Joined: 14.01.2013 Posts: 431

      I have to improve my attentiveness somehow. What do u think about yoga, Erik? Maybe yoga can solve this problem.....
      Yoga is great! Combine it with mindfulness :)
      First video is being released today and it incorporates mindfulness.

      Also read my article here if you like to know how it benefits our decision making in poker. Mindfulness and Betting Decisions.

      Hope you find it useful!

      Cheers!
    • gadget51
      gadget51
      Bronze
      Joined: 23.06.2008 Posts: 5,622
      Hey there Alexandr, how are you?

      You must obviously be busy, but it would be really helpful if you would update your thread to keep it current, which naturally encourages more discussion. :)

      The Yoga idea sounded quie interesting by the way, any progress from it so far?

      March on soldier! :)

      Mal.
    • dushili
      dushili
      Black
      Joined: 04.05.2009 Posts: 3,413
      Everything was great, I played 1/2 and 2/4 and showed nearly my A game all the time. But today my problems come back.
      I hate to play call/call/fold, especially in 3 bet pots. Im starting to level myself "he could bluff to blank" or "its top of my range" or "Ive got a good pot odds" and so on.

      1)
      21/17/8 wwsf 45
      sb vs bu - 16%
      cb 74/44/45 3bp 76/45/60
      Afq 46/27/20
      got nots, that he could 2x overbet bluff river

      Pre-flop: ($3, 4 players) Hero is BTN: 7, 7
      CO folds, Hero raises to $4, SB raises to $16, BB folds, Hero calls $12

      Flop: 2, 2, J ($34, 2 players)
      SB bets $20, Hero calls $20

      Turn: 8 ($74, 2 players)
      SB bets $42, Hero calls $42

      River: 5 ($158, 2 players)
      SB raises to $122 (All-in), Hero calls $122

      2)
      26/20/8/4
      3bet sb vs bu 13%
      cb 66/48/50 3bp 64/52/71
      afq 38/25/17
      wwsf 42 ;(

      Pre-flop: ($3, 5 players) Hero is BTN: J, A
      MP folds, Hero raises to $4, SB raises to $18, BB folds, Hero calls $14

      Flop: T, A, K ($38, 2 players)
      SB bets $21, Hero calls $21

      Turn: 8 ($80, 2 players)
      SB bets $44, Hero calls $44

      River: 9 ($168, 2 players)
      SB raises to $117 (All-in), Hero calls $117

      Previous hand I 4bet him and he folds. I usually dont call tight 3bets w AJo (4bet/fold or fold), but here I thought he cold bluffpush often vs my 2nd 4bet. He insta 3barrel. call river obv was a big mistake ;(

      Maybe I was so bad today, cuz yesterday Ive won 12BI. Maybe it was a "winning tilt" when you think, that u can win every hand...
    • ErikStenqvist
      ErikStenqvist
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      Joined: 14.01.2013 Posts: 431
      Originally posted by dushili
      Maybe I was so bad today, cuz yesterday Ive won 12BI. Maybe it was a "winning tilt" when you think, that u can win every hand...
      Is this something that happens a lot? How much $/month do you think that you are losing in spots like these? If you calculate it and put a number on it then you can easier see if you have an issue with tilt here...

      Cheers! :)
    • dushili
      dushili
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      Joined: 04.05.2009 Posts: 3,413
      Ive lost 1060$ by mistakes this month (240 yesterday).
    • ErikStenqvist
      ErikStenqvist
      Global
      Joined: 14.01.2013 Posts: 431
      Originally posted by dushili
      Ive lost 1060$ by mistakes this month (240 yesterday).
      Keeping track of $ lost/month on mistakes are good to keep track on. Mark all the hands where you are C/C/F and post them here and see how the other coaches would play the same hands. Maybe there are a few different lines that you can take or adjust your ranges. The fact that you get uncomfortable or annoyed on the river and call the third barrel is something you want to prepare for as early as the flop in the AJ hand. Decide on the turn what you will do on certain rivers. Then talk your thought process out on the river. Slow things down. This will make it easier to reach better decisions. But you have to make a conscious effort and work on these spots. :)

      When it comes to winners tilt. How can you tell now that that could have been an issue? Did you notice it even before the session started? If so, how?

      Cheers!
    • dushili
      dushili
      Black
      Joined: 04.05.2009 Posts: 3,413
      When it comes to winners tilt. How can you tell now that that could have been an issue? Did you notice it even before the session started? If so, how?


      I dont think, that winners tilt could be a big problem for me, cause regulary I dont watch my results due session.
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