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    • 7ofdiamond
      7ofdiamond
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      Joined: 03.02.2011 Posts: 389
      Hi Guys,

      My name is Áron [Aaron], grinding from Hungary.
      At the first 3 months , i have been playing SNGs, after that i started NLHE CG at NL4. That was 1,5 years ago.

      Now, i mostly play at NL100, Ongame network, started to shoot NL200. I usually play at 9-12 tables. My winrate is around 1,5-2bb/100 in the last 200k, i think it can be easily better if i would work more on my leaks.

      I am really motivated, want to learn, want to play and want to have a lot of BI-s. :D

      My short term goal is to beat some mid stakes limit at the end of the year.

      My potential problems can be:
      - adapt to spewy regulars ( feeling: "usually played off my hand")
      - adapt to not so standard players. ( can not understand how can they win--> optimal play againts him?)
      - adapt to the circumstances, especially in the blinds ( like i have the same WTSD when i defend my BB as in the CO, or at least it is close.)

      After the camp, i would like to feel, that i did some steps to get closer to my goal.
  • 13 replies
    • pleno1
      pleno1
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      Joined: 19.11.2010 Posts: 5,596
      Hey,

      Saw your post here a few hours and it was at the top of the page, its less than 6 hours later and nearly on page 2!

      Nice for you to join us, my girlfriend is Hungarian, very nice people. :)

      Really cool that you play Ongame, I also play sometimes too. How do you deal with regs? Do you check PTR for every one?

      Mid stakes on Ongame is quite reggy, but games are definitely beatable and I think you could do very well there.

      You say you struggle to adapt to spewy regulars, how would you say that you currently deal with them?

      Looking forward to this one and looking forward to share the roller coaster with you when you shoot 200!
    • 7ofdiamond
      7ofdiamond
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      Joined: 03.02.2011 Posts: 389
      Hi Guys,

      There are some stats about my style:

      A képet a Képfeltöltés.hu tárolja. http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu
    • 7ofdiamond
      7ofdiamond
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      Joined: 03.02.2011 Posts: 389
      Yeah, i always check, them bought PTR membership when came to ongame, also think its really usefull.

      Nowdays i have positive and negative feelings about the spewy regs. Just always have the feelings they outplays me with my marginals hands, got the feelings that i am able to beat them with my monsters hands.

      There is hand which is really intresting.
      Villian gigaspewy reg.
      24/19/7.8 [20k]
      flop fold to C bet 42
      ch/r flop 8
      WTSD 27 WaSD 51 WaSD flop ch/r 53

      he doesnt look maniac but he loves to move ( esp 3b pots)


      -my conception was againts him: if i call flop and turn which is really strong he might give up river.
      -unfortunetly if he plays KQ/AQ+ this way he wont fold, and i can force him to do some megspewy move. (btw i have never seen him ch/r TP on dry boards so his range is narrower )

      -turn ch behind: this is the only way i can keep his floats inside, ( btw he could picked up some EQ so barel can be an option)

      -river: bet big, i was thinking about shipping my stack but he mostly has 66 or air or some tricky Qx or KK+ whick might call, but i wanted to get some information and yeahh...



      On Game, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BB: $155.08 (155.1 bb)
      Hero (MP): $121.59 (121.6 bb)
      CO: $129.46 (129.5 bb)
      BTN: $26.18 (26.2 bb)
      SB: $92.03 (92 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP with 2 2
      Hero raises to $3, 3 folds, BB calls $2

      Flop: ($6.50) 6 2 Q (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $4.50, BB raises to $12.50, Hero raises to $26, BB calls $13.50

      Turn: ($58.50) 8 (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero checks

      River: ($58.50) 9 (2 players)
      BB bets $44, Hero calls $44

      Results:
      $146.50 pot ($3 rake)
      Final Board: 6 2 Q 8 9
      BB showed K J and lost (-$73 net)
      Hero showed 2 2 and won $143.50 ($70.50 net)
    • 7ofdiamond
      7ofdiamond
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      Joined: 03.02.2011 Posts: 389
      so like againts this guy how do u adopt? only value? and u bloff just the best spots?
    • imfromsweden007
      imfromsweden007
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      Joined: 11.10.2008 Posts: 726
      nh! I generally adapt by just cbetting less, and just get involved in big pots with marginal hands less often. However, when we do decide to take a stand (with a hand that isn't a monster), we need to be prepared to fight a little bit harder for it.
    • gadget51
      gadget51
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      Joined: 23.06.2008 Posts: 5,622
      Hi Aaron, I hope you are well and enjoying the course. :)

      This is just a reminder that keeping your thread updated will get more responses from other members. I know sometimes you might be just be too busy, so that's ok.

      Just have fun, :)

      Mal.
    • 7ofdiamond
      7ofdiamond
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      Joined: 03.02.2011 Posts: 389
      Hi guys,

      I am still living, just had an important exam in the university.

      So, i am still trying NL200, in the last week i was running pretty bad, so yeasterday i skipped playing and had some fun with my family.
    • 7ofdiamond
      7ofdiamond
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      Joined: 03.02.2011 Posts: 389
      Hero (SB): $159.17 (159.2 bb)
      BB: $39.50 (39.5 bb)
      MP: $100 (100 bb)
      CO: $121.10 (121.1 bb)
      BTN: $542.36 (542.4 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with A T
      2 folds, BTN raises to $2, Hero raises to $9, BB folds, BTN calls $7

      Flop: ($19) 8 2 6 (2 players)
      Hero bets $11, BTN calls $11

      Turn: ($41) T (2 players)
      Hero bets $23, BTN calls $23

      River: ($87) A (2 players)
      Hero bets $37, BTN raises to $499.36 and is all-in, Hero calls $79.17


      This one is pretty intresting for me.

      Villain: 26/20/6.8 [605]

      foldto3b: 42 WTSD: 29 WaSD: 48
      AF: 2,54 1,00 1,17
      Fold to C bet 3bpot: 50(8) 0(3) -


      I have no reads on him.

      What is the best size on the river?

      My conception was: a smaller bet can be good, he can HC me some weak one pair hand, and againts this size he probably shoves wider. ( not sure this guy shoves (8Ts or A8s ) and ofc he can still do some crazy moves with some blockers.

      The problem is that he was really passive, on small example.

      Betting big on the river give us better odds to call shove and with that stack size his bluff would be a smaller part of his range.
    • 7ofdiamond
      7ofdiamond
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      Joined: 03.02.2011 Posts: 389
      BB: $29.20 (29.2 bb)
      UTG: $205.01 (205 bb)
      MP: $129.08 (129.1 bb)
      CO: $104.55 (104.6 bb)
      Hero (BTN): $148.90 (148.9 bb)
      SB: $99.50 (99.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with A A
      UTG raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero raises to $10, 2 folds, UTG calls $7

      Flop: ($21.50) 3 6 7 (2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets $14, UTG raises to $28

      Ipoker speed

      Villain:22/18/4.9 [230]

      foldto3bet 0(4)

      single raised pot : ch/r 22(9) raise C bet 43(7)


      really small example but he didnt look passive. What is the best line here?
    • ErikStenqvist
      ErikStenqvist
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      Joined: 14.01.2013 Posts: 431
      Hey Aaron! :)

      My name is Erik and I will be part of the coaching staff focusing on Tilt, A-Game, Mindset, and Lifecoaching. So if you have any questions you can just post them
      here and let me know in my Q&A thread if I take too long to reply.

      Cheers!
    • jachis
      jachis
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      Joined: 07.04.2008 Posts: 745
      Originally posted by 7ofdiamondBB: $29.20 (29.2 bb)UTG: $205.01 (205 bb)MP: $129.08 (129.1 bb)CO: $104.55 (104.6 bb)Hero (BTN): $148.90 (148.9 bb)SB: $99.50 (99.5 bb)Preflop: Hero is BTN with A AUTG raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero raises to $10, 2 folds, UTG calls $7Flop: ($21.50) 3 6 7 (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets $14, UTG raises to $28Ipoker speedVillain:22/18/4.9 [230]foldto3bet 0(4)single raised pot : ch/r 22(9) raise C bet 43(7)really small example but he didnt look passive. What is the best line here?


      What you think about 3betting a bit bigger because of stack dephtness and the fact that villain does not fold to 3bets.

      Whats villains RFI from UTG?
      Villains fold to 3bet 0 (0/4),Is he calling or 4betting more?

      Tough spot, you block the nut flush which he could be raising, do you think he could do it with JJ-KK?


      Board: 6:heart: 7:spade: 3:spade:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      MP2    57.40%  56.68%   0.72% { AsAc }
      MP3    42.60%  41.88%   0.72% { KK-QQ, 77-66, 33, 9s8s }


      If you add some more FD's or some random bluffs your obviously doing better.
    • 7ofdiamond
      7ofdiamond
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      Joined: 03.02.2011 Posts: 389
      Hello Jachis, ty for the reply.

      u are right, i should definetly 3bet bigger, like 11 or even 12 . He called the 3 bet 100% percent. 4/4

      I think some villains ch/r-broke KK/QQ this spot. But mostly his vaule range will be nut FD ( which i block :( ) sets, and combodraws.
      The other part of his range, and will be a huge part is some random bluffs i think.

      Raise first UTG 20, which probably contains 56s-67s.
    • gadget51
      gadget51
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      Joined: 23.06.2008 Posts: 5,622
      Hey there Aaron, how are you doing?

      I hope you got past that exam ok. :)
      I know time can be probelmatic, but do try to post some questions here for the coaches and others to help out with or an interesting hand for evaluation and discussion.

      March on!