[NL20-NL50] NL 25 TPTK vs donk multiway

    • dobermann123
      Joined: 08.01.2008 Posts: 730
      Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      Hero (CO): $35.17 (140.7 bb)
      BTN: $18.65 (74.6 bb)
      SB: $27.30 (109.2 bb)
      BB: $10.21 (40.8 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with J A
      Hero raises to $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, SB calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50

      Flop: ($3) 4 8 J (4 players)
      SB bets $2, BB folds, Hero calls $2, BTN folds

      Turn: ($7) 6 (2 players)
      SB bets $5, Hero raises to $32.42 and is all-in, SB calls $19.55 and is all-in

      River: ($56.10) Q (2 players, 2 are all-in)

      $56.10 pot ($2.50 rake)
      Final Board: 4 8 J 6 Q
      Hero showed J A and lost (-$27.30 net)
      SB showed J J and won $53.60 ($26.30 net)

      Very few information on vilain. Seem reg fish. 23/16 0% 3bet , donkbet 20% ( 5 sample ). AF 6,3. 274 hand.

      Board is drawy, I just call on flop to get in on safe card turn. I beat a lot of draw / TP

      I think his range can be : JJ,88,44,AJs,KJs,QJs,AdKd,AdQd,KdQd,QdTd,Td9d,7d6d,6d5d,AJo,KJo,QJo

      what do you think ?
  • 3 replies
    • mbml
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,779

      Shoving in 4way here is definitely overplay. He is polarized to sets and draws when he bdts twice and shoving just isolates u vs the nuts. The pot is not yet sufficiently large to justofy shoving for protection and that applies mainly when villain's range contains way more draws than nutted hands.

      Over here i really doubt he bets both flop and turn with gutshots so i would call and probably call blank rivers while folding on bad ones.

    • ilidek
      Joined: 06.07.2010 Posts: 3,089
      bad ones = what?
      daimond for sure but what about heart and 7 / 5?
    • mbml
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,779
      I would call on hearts and fold on 7/5/diamonds.

      Imo he is way less likely to lead backdoor draws oop in a 4way pot.