[NL2-NL10] 2 pair OOP bvb

    • yaxkukmian
      yaxkukmian
      Bronze
      Joined: 24.12.2007 Posts: 2,020
      villain 29 hands 29/21 - unknown

      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
      Hero ($11.90)
      BB ($11.02)
      UTG ($6.50)
      UTG+1 ($10.67)
      CO ($4)
      BTN ($4.22)

      Dealt to Hero T:diamond: Q:diamond:

      fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.30, BB calls $0.20

      FLOP ($0.60) Q:spade: T:heart: J:club:

      Hero bets $0.45, BB raises to $0.90, Hero calls $0.45

      TURN ($2.40) Q:spade: T:heart: J:club: 8:club:

      Hero checks, BB bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20

      RIVER ($4.80) Q:spade: T:heart: J:club: 8:club: A:diamond:

      Hero checks, BB checks

      BB shows Q:club: J:heart:
      (Pre 69%, Flop 88.7%, Turn 90.9%)

      Hero shows T:diamond: Q:diamond:
      (Pre 31%, Flop 11.3%, Turn 9.1%)

      BB wins $4.48


      Hate minr like this when there are many hands we beat but may improve on later streets. Also he already might have 98/ K9. Maybe he does it with some KQ which might c behind on T if he doesn't want to play for bigger pot if he doesn't hit his SD.

      T is really ugly in my opinion since we now beat only AQ/ KQ/ JT. His bet seems inviting. I should just fold it since I can't call another bet on the R.
  • 4 replies
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hi Yax,

      Preflop: looks fine

      Postflop: What range do you expect villain to min raise?

      2 pair here is usually weak unless it's top two pair but given his bets he could raise some worse like TJ.

      So what range do you have him on? Start from preflop and then move onto the flop and turn (not just turn). Do the entire range not just pieces of it like KQ or 98. So list the hands and combos and it will put things in perspective.
    • kymupa
      kymupa
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      Joined: 22.10.2009 Posts: 22,364
      Hello,

      Preflop is fine.

      On the flop I like your bet here, and when he minraises I think calling is fine.

      As played, I would rather fold this turn. I'm not sure that he bets KQ/AQ/JT here and we still have to play on another street.

      Best,
      Plamen
    • yaxkukmian
      yaxkukmian
      Bronze
      Joined: 24.12.2007 Posts: 2,020
      Originally posted by BogdanPS
      Postflop: What range do you expect villain to min raise?
      Agree there are many hands that beat us QJ, K9, 98. But despite being super draw heavy flop we can be good sometimes here. Problem is that we will be OOP for the rest of the hand so we can build the pot and we are in situation to c/c many T.

      Originally posted by BogdanPSSo what range do you have him on? Start from preflop and then move onto the flop and turn (not just turn). Do the entire range not just pieces of it like KQ or 98. So list the hands and combos and it will put things in perspective.
      Range than he minr us with is very narrow. Preflop range of KJ, KT, AT, Q9, J9,...does hit this flop but doesn't minr. The range of hands that does this is QJ, K9, 98, and I was hoping KQ and JT. AQ probably 3b preflop so we beat only 2 hands.

      Should fold it on the T.

      Tnx to both of you.
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Originally posted by yaxkukmian
      Originally posted by BogdanPS
      Postflop: What range do you expect villain to min raise?
      Agree there are many hands that beat us QJ, K9, 98. But despite being super draw heavy flop we can be good sometimes here. Problem is that we will be OOP for the rest of the hand so we can build the pot and we are in situation to c/c many T.

      Originally posted by BogdanPSSo what range do you have him on? Start from preflop and then move onto the flop and turn (not just turn). Do the entire range not just pieces of it like KQ or 98. So list the hands and combos and it will put things in perspective.
      Range than he minr us with is very narrow. Preflop range of KJ, KT, AT, Q9, J9,...does hit this flop but doesn't minr. The range of hands that does this is QJ, K9, 98, and I was hoping KQ and JT. AQ probably 3b preflop so we beat only 2 hands.

      Should fold it on the T.

      Tnx to both of you.
      You got it,

      Most of the time he will not bet the turn with many weaker hands. Maybe TJ or some random KQ/AQ of clubs but thats about it.