# [NL20-NL50] NL50 zoom QQ

• Bronze
Joined: 12.11.2011
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\$0.25/\$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

Known players:
BU:
\$27.72
SB (Hero):
\$56.30
BB:
\$26.25
MP2:
\$86.57
MP3:
\$21.44
CO:
\$50.00

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, Q.
MP2 raises to \$1.50, MP3 calls \$1.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to \$6.50, BB folds, MP2 raises to \$15.00, 2 folds, [I][COLOR=grey]Hero ??????
Final Pot: \$8.5.
• 4 replies
• Bronze
Joined: 02.01.2010
Heya,

What's the question? If MP2 so tight you want to fold? You only have 54 hands. I think this is definitely a value shove. His 4bet is huge and means he will most often be commited with whatever hand he has. Sometimes he folds but that's just an even bigger mistake to make in general.
• Bronze
Joined: 12.11.2011
well, but at the moment i played, his 4b was 0%
• Bronze
Joined: 02.01.2010
Originally posted by joefraizer1
well, but at the moment i played, his 4b was 0%
50 hands, sir! That's not enough to tell about someone's tendencies in such dynamic spots.
• Bronze
Joined: 04.01.2009
I was practicing EV calculation, so in case somebody is interested I post:

--assume MP3 always folds--

ev = p (he calls) * EV1 + p (he folds) * EV2

0 = p(he folds) * 15+1.5+6.5+0.5 + 1-p (he calls) * ev2

when he calls with QQ+, AK:

EV2 = p (I win) * (112.6-(56.3-6.5)+ 1.5+0.5) + p(I loose)*(-(56.3-6.5)) =

=0.4 * (112 -49.8+2) - 0.6 * 49.8 = 0.4 * 64.2 - 29.88 =

25.68 -29.88 = -4.2\$

put in the first equation:

p - P of his fold

0= p * 23.5 + (1-p) * (-4.2)

0 = 23.5p -4.2 + 4.2p

4.2 = 27.7p

p = 4.2/27.7 = 0.15 we need 15% fold equity

Actually we need to include rake, so probably bit more fold equity required.