[NL2-NL10] 97s overplayed

    • yaxkukmian
      yaxkukmian
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      Joined: 24.12.2007 Posts: 2,020
      10 hands/ 60/ 10/

      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
      SB ($3.90)
      Hero ($10.16)
      UTG ($21.30)
      UTG+1 ($7.03)
      CO ($21.16)
      BTN ($10)

      Dealt to Hero 7:club: 9:club:

      UTG calls $0.10, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero checks

      FLOP ($0.25) J:diamond: 6:club: 9:spade:

      Hero checks, UTG bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30

      TURN ($0.85) J:diamond: 6:club: 9:spade: 5:spade:

      Hero checks, UTG bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

      RIVER ($1.65) J:diamond: 6:club: 9:spade: 5:spade: 7:heart:

      Hero bets $0.90, UTG calls $0.90

      Hero shows 7:club: 9:club:
      (Pre 37%, Flop 24.8%, Turn 15.9%)

      UTG shows J:spade: K:spade:
      (Pre 63%, Flop 75.2%, Turn 84.1%)

      Hero wins $3.22


      He could slowplay good hand from ep when limping with intention of limp/r preflop. I went for c/c and re-evaluate on the T.

      R doesn't change much beside us getting 4 new outs. If he bet 60c do we fold or still call? We would have a tough decision on the R since we don't beat any 9x.

      R action. I went for bet/fold. He might c behind some Jx if he's not strong enough.

      It seems a bit overplayed hand but other than calling flop overpot it seems quite ok.
  • 5 replies
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hi yax,

      Preflop: looks fine

      Postflop: it's a limped pot, we have a pretty weak hand and we are OOP. So we should simply muck our hand or at least not invest a ton of money into the pot.

      Our edge is marginal at best against an unknown.

      As played the river is a good donk for value vs Jx+.
    • dienaszaglis
      dienaszaglis
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      Joined: 12.06.2008 Posts: 999
      Hi!


      I would probably donk on the flop:

      1. We almost always have the best hand.
      2. We have some back-doors, if called.
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Originally posted by dienaszaglis
      Hi!


      I would probably donk on the flop:

      1. We almost always have the best hand.
      2. We have some back-doors, if called.
      We are OOP in a limped pot so building it up with a weak hand is a sure way to lose money.

      Sure we may have the best hand some amount of the time but how many streets do we bet? How do we play turn/river? Etc.
    • dienaszaglis
      dienaszaglis
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      Joined: 12.06.2008 Posts: 999
      I would make this play only against more passive villains. So, that they don`t take the pot on the turn too often, after we check.
      And plan, generally, would be to bet only once and try to get to showdown, if unimproved.

      We`re not investing too much. But I see your point and understand it.
      Anyway, we`re not making too much money (if any :D ) with this play, so it`s rather unnecessary.
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Originally posted by dienaszaglis
      I would make this play only against more passive villains. So, that they don`t take the pot on the turn too often, after we check.
      And plan, generally, would be to bet only once and try to get to showdown, if unimproved.

      We`re not investing too much. But I see your point and understand it.
      Anyway, we`re not making too much money (if any :D ) with this play, so it`s rather unnecessary.
      Indeed :)

      We only invested what we were forced to. The pot is small and while it's nice to pick it up we have 0 info on villain and his ranges/tendencies so with weaker hands we are better off playing "weaker" and folding.