[NL2-NL10] NL10 SH, BvB IP vs fish

    • dienaszaglis
      dienaszaglis
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      $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
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      Stacks:
      UTG ($10.58) 106bb
      UTG+1 ($8.36) 84bb
      CO ($10) 100bb
      BTN ($11.90) 119bb
      SB ($4.82) 48bb 87/0, AF: 3.2, SD: 28, 32h, *donks 1bb f/t/r w/ 2/3rd pair
      HERO (BB) ($10) 100bb

      Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 6 players) HERO is BB J:diamond: A:spade:
      4 folds, SB calls $0.05, HERO raises to $0.40, SB calls $0.30

      Flop: A:club: 7:spade: K:club: ($0.80, 2 players)
      SB bets $0.10, HERO raises to $0.70, SB calls $0.60

      Turn: 6:club: ($2.20, 2 players)
      SB bets $0.10, HERO raises to $1.60, SB calls $1.50

      River: 7:diamond: ($5.40, 2 players)
      SB goes all-in $2.12, HERO?

      PRE
      Standard iso IP.

      FLOP
      He`s probably donking any pair, any draw. So, I raise for value.

      TURN
      Same as on the flop. Plan is to shove river against small donk.

      RIVER
      7x or slow-played hand? Honestly, feels like a fold, despite the great odds. Previously he donked small pairs, but never donk/donk/shove.
  • 7 replies
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Hi Diena,

      Preflop: looks fine

      Postflop: I agree with your flop and turn logic/lines however we can also raise bigger, especially on the flop.

      As played 7x is part of his range but he can also have a flush or even Ax. We also split with all Ax now so this spot is ugly.

      I think that despite the good odds it's closer to a fold.
    • dienaszaglis
      dienaszaglis
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      Originally posted by BogdanPS
      Postflop: I agree with your flop and turn logic/lines however we can also raise bigger, especially on the flop.
      Hi!

      How much bigger? Pot (+1, 2BB)?

      Anyway, ended up folding.
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Originally posted by dienaszaglis
      Originally posted by BogdanPS
      Postflop: I agree with your flop and turn logic/lines however we can also raise bigger, especially on the flop.
      Hi!

      How much bigger? Pot (+1, 2BB)?

      Anyway, ended up folding.
      Depends on how you want to play the hand.

      Always try to plan on how many streets you want to get the money in.

      I'd ideally want to get the money in by the turn, so how much should we bet?
    • dienaszaglis
      dienaszaglis
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      We should raise enough, that on the turn there`s a ~ PSB left.
      So, raise to ~ 1.20 on the flop would be sufficient.

      On the flop I planned to get the stacks in on the river. But flop is rather dry and villain can stack off also on 2 streets. Seems much better to raise the flop bigger.

      Would you plan 2 streets of value, if the flop was rainbow?
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Originally posted by dienaszaglis
      We should raise enough, that on the turn there`s a ~ PSB left.
      So, raise to ~ 1.20 on the flop would be sufficient.

      On the flop I planned to get the stacks in on the river. But flop is rather dry and villain can stack off also on 2 streets. Seems much better to raise the flop bigger.

      Would you plan 2 streets of value, if the flop was rainbow?
      If you look at how the board texture is anything that calls the 70c can call more because there's two big cards there so we shouldn't aim to get value from 3rd pair because those usually don't pay much. So if the flop was dry there's less FDs but still plenty of 1p and gutshots.
    • dienaszaglis
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      So, in these spots the most important thing is opponents stack? And, obviously we should 'milk' their value-range by shoving the turn.

      Against 60-70BB stacks, we should plan for 3 streets then?
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Originally posted by dienaszaglis
      So, in these spots the most important thing is opponents stack? And, obviously we should 'milk' their value-range by shoving the turn.

      Against 60-70BB stacks, we should plan for 3 streets then?
      Against a bigger stack we kinda have to aim for more streets simply because of his small donk.

      If he were to donk bigger, lets say 1/2 pot or so then we can still go for 2 streets. But otherwise we'd have to overbet a lot.