what are the typical postflop stats of certain player types

    • kavboj84
      kavboj84
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      Hi everyone ,


      Im about to upgrade my HUD with a few stats, and I'd like HM to color them according to the player types, but Im not sure about the exact settings.

      The stats are donk bet, cbet, check-rasie, raise, fold to cbet for each street. Id like to know the approximate values of these for loose passive, maniac, rock, tight passive, donk, LAG and standard TAG tpye of players.
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    • Avataren
      Avataren
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      tight passive
      <25% vpip
      <10% pfr
      <40% agg%
      tight aggressive
      <> 25 - 30% vpip
      <> 20 - 25% pfr
      >45% agg%
      Loose Aggressive
      <> 25-38% vpip
      <> 20 - 30% pfr
      >45% agg%
      Loose Passive
      >25% vpip
      <10% pfr
      <40% agg%

      maniac
      >70% vpip
      > 50% pfr
      > 50% agg%

      > = bigger than
      < = smaller than
      <> between

      is what i loosely go after. and have an understanding for
    • doctorkgb
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      So it doesn't matter if it was 6max full ring, or heads up? :D
    • kavboj84
      kavboj84
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      Originally posted by Avataren
      tight passive
      <25% vpip
      <10% pfr
      <40% agg%
      tight aggressive
      <> 25 - 30% vpip
      <> 20 - 25% pfr
      >45% agg%
      Loose Aggressive
      <> 25-38% vpip
      <> 20 - 30% pfr
      >45% agg%
      Loose Passive
      >25% vpip
      <10% pfr
      <40% agg%

      maniac
      >70% vpip
      > 50% pfr
      > 50% agg%

      > = bigger than
      < = smaller than
      <> between

      is what i loosely go after. and have an understanding for
      The stats are donk bet, cbet, check-rasie, raise, fold to cbet for each street.


      Originally posted by doctorkgb
      So it doesn't matter if it was 6max full ring, or heads up? :D
      Oh I forgot that 6-max FTW :s_biggrin:
    • Avataren
      Avataren
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      i play 6max and i knew kav was playing 6max aswell

      about the lesser stats you talk about in fold to cbet etc. I dont think you can color code some of those stats...
    • kavboj84
      kavboj84
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      Sure their color can be adjusted according to the values like of any other stats. Havent you seen Datsmah's xmas tree HUD on the FL coaching ?
    • Avataren
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      I know thats not what I meant. I dont think you can color code them after each player type. you can't say that a LAG folds between 20 - 40% to cbet. lots of players do that regardless of their player type. etc.
    • kavboj84
      kavboj84
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      thats even more surprising. When I wrote "player type" in this thread I ment the "avarage player" as such, and not treating them as individuals. How would you assume that an average nit folds the same amount as the average maniac ?
    • Avataren
      Avataren
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      Originally posted by kavboj84
      thats even more surprising. When I wrote "player type" in this thread I ment the "avarage player" as such, and not treating them as individuals. How would you assume that an average nit folds the same amount as the average maniac ?
      I would never assume those two folds the same. But im talking more borderline types such as TAGs and LAGs .. ofcourse the maniac has a fold to cbet of 0 - 3% at maximum and a nit as high as 60% But i just dont want to say "nits fold 60%+ and TAGs between 30 - 40% LAGs between 20 - 30% etc. as ive seen some TAGs fold 20% and some LAGs up to 50% ..

      and average player ? I dont think you could go and say that because every player plays their own way. and you need to figure that out to exploit them. but as far as the better players compared to the worst players. those who knows a little about what kind of stats are good id say 30 - 35% fold to cbet is good?