[NL20-NL50] SH NL50 zoom T9s top two super cordinated F vs raise

    • dooleslovs
      dooleslovs
      Platinum
      Joined: 17.02.2011 Posts: 481
      PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: $50.00
      SB: $52.54
      BB: $60.59
      UTG: $62.05
      Hero (MP): $141.11
      CO: $50.00

      SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has 9:diamond: T:diamond:

      fold, Hero raises to $1.50, fold, BTN calls $1.50, fold, fold

      Flop: ($3.75, 2 players) T:heart: 8:club: 9:club:
      Hero bets $2.50, BTN raises to $6.50, Hero ??

      Vilain looks regish after 31 hands 23/13 fold to cbet 2/3
  • 3 replies
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,897
      Hey,

      Usually I prefer calling here to check/shove good turns. If you get it in now, you get it in badly usually. If you call and ship turn you shift equity a bit more in your favour and you have more dead money into the pot. If you do stack off here, I don't think it's a problem but don't expect a big profit. Board clearly hits many hands in his range. That said, sizing makes me think he is not strong. A strong hand would raise bigger to get money in asap imo.
    • dooleslovs
      dooleslovs
      Platinum
      Joined: 17.02.2011 Posts: 481
      PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: $50.00 (VPIP: 22.58, PFR: 12.90, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 31)
      SB: $52.54 (VPIP: 21.66, PFR: 17.86, 3Bet Preflop: 8.00, Hands: 993)
      BB: $60.59 (VPIP: 15.19, PFR: 13.92, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 80)
      UTG: $62.05 (VPIP: 19.41, PFR: 16.38, 3Bet Preflop: 8.58, Hands: 1,181)
      Hero (MP): $141.11
      CO: $50.00 (VPIP: 22.63, PFR: 20.07, 3Bet Preflop: 11.30, Hands: 281)

      SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has 9:diamond: T:diamond:

      fold, Hero raises to $1.50, fold, BTN calls $1.50, fold, fold

      Flop: ($3.75, 2 players) T:heart: 8:club: 9:club:
      Hero bets $2.50, BTN raises to $6.50, Hero calls $4.00

      Turn: ($16.75, 2 players) K:spade:
      Hero checks, BTN bets $13.50, Hero??

      So you are shoving Trun? His sizing doe not look very blufy though.
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,897
      His sizing looks very standard now for this type of board. What other hands would you get here with?

      Your equity is not that great because the King helps him quite a bit. My idea of a good turn was 5s for example. It gives you an extra 5% equity compared to Ks. That said, you still have 37% equity only against his stacking off range so you need a good amount of folding equity. I struggle to find bluffs in his range as an average unknown. If he were more aggressive I could put in hands like KQ and KJ in his range which I am not too confident he has.

      The perfect scenario sort of:


      Board: T:heart: 8:club: 9:club:  K:spade:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      MP2    47.78%  46.60%   1.18% { Td9d }
      MP3    52.22%  51.04%   1.18% { TT-88, QJs, T9s, 98s, 76s, AcQc, KcQc, AcJc, KcJc, AcTc, KcTc, QcTc, JcTc, KJo+ }



      Worst case:


      Board: T:heart: 8:club: 9:club:  K:spade:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      MP2    32.50%  30.41%   2.09% { Td9d }
      MP3    67.50%  65.41%   2.09% { TT-88, QJs, T9s, 98s, 76s, AcQc, KcQc, AcJc, KcJc, AcTc, KcTc, QcTc, JcTc }



      Overall, this means it's a play that will rely on folding equity. If you change the Ks to 5s you will see a huge increase when you can include at least some KQ, KJ type bluffs in his range which makes flop play marginal but still good. On this specific turn it's probably more likely a fold without knowing people's aggression to be quite high.