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[NL20-NL50] 50NL Fast - QQ on a A high flop

    • J10aces
      Joined: 08.11.2012 Posts: 19

      No stats or reads on the villain as this is the first hand I have played with them.

      I cbet as I want to take the pot down now and I don't think I can c/c multiple barrels.

      In hindsight, I think the turn is a c/f. We are likely to face 2 barrels and I think that Jx will ck the turn back.

      What are your thoughts about my play and my thought process?

      IPoker, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BB: $50.75 (101.5 bb)
      UTG: $19.50 (39 bb)
      Hero (MP): $90.47 (180.9 bb)
      CO: $68.37 (136.7 bb)
      BTN: $61.83 (123.7 bb)
      SB: $70.67 (141.3 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP with Q Q
      UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.50, CO calls $1.50, 3 folds

      Flop: ($3.75) A J 2 (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.50, CO calls $2.50

      Turn: ($8.75) T (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $4.37, Hero calls $4.37

      River: ($17.49) 3 (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $8.74, Hero folds

      $17.49 pot ($0.87 rake)
      Final Board: A J 2 T 3
      Hero mucked Q Q and lost (-$8.37 net)
      CO mucked and won $16.62 ($8.25 net)
  • 3 replies
    • mbml
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,779

      I don't like betting QQ here if we are not doing it for thin value. What I mean by thin value is that we still expect to get called by worse hands >50% of the time.

      If that's the case, then I think c/f Turn is way too weak.

      By default I'll just c/c Flop and check/decide on Turn. I will also be checking a ton of AX hands here so I'm not going to be too afraid of getting exploited.

    • J10aces
      Joined: 08.11.2012 Posts: 19
      You say you'll be checking a ton of Ax hands but what Ax hands do we have in our range opening from MP? AT+?

      If we check AQ then isn't our cbet range skewed towards bluffs on this flop?
    • mbml
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,779
      I am going to check/call A2s-ATs on the Flop sometimes. We don't have to c/c those hands with a 100% frequency, maybe 30-50% of the time.

      We can bet AK AJ AQ most of the time on the Flop, occasionally maybe 10-20% of the time we can c/c (or even c/r Flop with AJ) for balance.

      You don't have to strictly follow these numbers, just note that vs tougher players you may want to have more balance as they will probably be willing to ramp up the aggression and fire multiple streets if you do take a c/c line so it will be necessary to have some stronger hands which can withstand 3 barrels.

      Vs a mediocre/bad player we can just check AJ-AK 0% of the time, c/c Ax some of the time. Balance wouldn't be so important.