[NL2-NL10] QQ fold.. feedback please

    • spreeboy
      spreeboy
      Bronze
      Joined: 06.09.2010 Posts: 223
      Versus unknown, what is the likely value range and bluff range that would take this line?

      Also, is this a good fold? (No read on villain)

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.02/$0.05 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      SB:
      $5.00
      BB:
      $5.19
      MP2:
      $5.22
      MP3 (Hero):
      $5.00
      CO:
      $4.25
      BU:
      $5.88


      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q, Q.
      MP2 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, 3 folds, BB raises to $0.45, Hero calls $0.30.

      Flop: ($0.92) 8, 2, 4 (2 players)
      BB bets $0.45, Hero calls $0.45.

      Turn: ($1.82) K (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $1.15, BB calls $1.15.

      River: ($4.12) 5 (2 players)
      BB bets $3.14, Hero folds, BB gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $4.12.
  • 4 replies
    • EnterG
      EnterG
      Bronze
      Joined: 26.01.2010 Posts: 632
      Most of the times this play is a made hand in this example the flush.The donk bet on the river by opponent is often for value because he is afraid the check behind.

      IMO
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      Hi,

      I would not have bet the Turn. I don't think we have 3 streets of value from villain, and we are unafraid of any card in the deck besides an Ace.

      So check back, and bet when checked to on River, or call a River bet.

      as played I don't mind folding. His line doesn't even make any sense but I think we are beat here more often.

      Thanks.
    • spreeboy
      spreeboy
      Bronze
      Joined: 06.09.2010 Posts: 223
      Yeah I think he's not bluffing here often.

      You're right mbml, checking back turn is better.

      Thanks guys :s_thumbsup:
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      I forgot to point out one more thing,

      I think he may check/call AA/AK here because he is afraid of the flush completing on the Turn even though we shouldn't really have too many speculative suited hands calling his 3bet preflop.

      So it would be unwise to discount such hands from villain's range.