[NL20-NL50] NL50sh - QJo Cbetting 3way?

    • Farmarchist
      Joined: 27.12.2010 Posts: 14,640
      Hello guys,

      Back to NL50 after I hit a $1K downswing + cashed some out. Still kinda rolled for 100nl but want to get more confi back :) .

      So on this flop, what hands are we cbetting?

      But guys seem decent regs and I do not have particular reads.

      Poker Stars $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2144815
      DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

      BTN: $54.18 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 1,0, Hands: 91
      SB: $50.00 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 15, 3B: 7, AF: 4,0, Hands: 199
      BB: $64.32 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 18, 3B: 12, AF: 1,9, Hands: 350
      UTG: $83.91 - VPIP: 8, PFR: 4, 3B: 0, AF: 1,0, Hands: 24
      Hero (MP): $50.00 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 19, 3B: 8, AF: 3,7, Hands: 215279
      CO: $74.04 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 21, 3B: 10, AF: 3,2, Hands: 378

      Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is MP with Q :diamond: J :heart:
      1 fold, Hero raises to $1.50, CO calls $1.50, 1 fold, SB calls $1.25, 1 fold

      Flop: ($5.00) 5 :spade: K :diamond: 7 :diamond: (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $3.50, CO calls $3.50, SB calls $3.50

      I thought this hand was close. I have not idea if they are folding TT/JJ here but it's possible right? Plan was to barrel any diamond, A, T
  • 3 replies
    • double2
      Joined: 04.11.2008 Posts: 14,642
      I think we should not cbet and I don't think it's close.
    • Farmarchist
      Joined: 27.12.2010 Posts: 14,640
      Originally posted by double2
      I think we should not cbet and I don't think it's close.
      Owwwkay but we want more reasoning :) . Do you think most regs will call midPP without a diamond?

      I do have a lot of barrelcard.

      Now: What are the weakest hands we cbet here? Just AdX?
    • BogdanPS
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hi Farma,

      This spot also comes down to our opponents (and our own image).

      We have a few hands with both so we could have some extra info.

      I think that multiway with a low equity hand I would prefer check/folding because I don't think this is a spot where we will take the pot down with just one bet. And given our lower equity in the hand it implies that we need more FE to make up for it. Given that we didn't get 3-bet by CO or squeezed by SB their range have plenty of pairs and even broadways with Kx (mostly suited from SB but they can also show up with some KJ/KT). CO can also float lighter with position or raise (given he is really aggro). All these scenarios are bad for us and our weak hand.

      As far as the worst hand to cbet it would be something with a stronger backdoor equity like A4ss for example. We can also valuebet thin hands like JJ-QQ and even weaker pairs.