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[NL2-NL10] Should I have bet on the turn?

    • Fr4nR
      Joined: 03.02.2009 Posts: 13
      I didn't play this hand as well as I should have. Afterwards I kinda wondered if
      a: If I raised 3x blind pre-flop whether I was able to make more ppl fold.

      b: If I bet at the turn I could've protected my hand?

      Or none of the above and should have played much differently? Thanks in advance.

      Known Players:
      UTG3: €1.33 - 67 bb
      MP1: €2.00 - 100 bb
      MP2: €2.06 - 103 bb
      MP3: €1.29 - 65 bb
      CO: €1.00 - 50 bb
      BU: €1.65 - 83 bb
      SB: €1.95 - 98 bb
      BB: €1.50 - 75 bb

      0.01/0.02 No Limit Hold'em (8 Handed)
      Hand recorder for this hand: SideKick 1.1.319.3

      Preflop: Hero is UTG3 with K:spade: , T:diamond:
      SB posts small blind (€0.01), BB posts big blind (€0.02), CO posts penalty big blind (€0.02), Hero raises for €0.04, 3 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls

      Flop: (€0.13 - 6.50 bb) Q:spade: , 9:diamond: , 4:spade: (3 Players)
      BB bets €0.13, Hero raises for €1.29, CO calls, BB calls

      Turn: (€3.67 - 183.50 bb) K:club: (3 Players)

      River: (€3.67 - 183.50 bb) 3:diamond: (3 Players)

      edit: (added result manually)

      Hero shows: K:spade: 10:diamond: -> K:spade: K:club: Q:spade: 10:diamond: 9:diamond: (A Pair)
      CO shows: J:spade: 8:spade: -> K:spade: Q:spade: J:spade: 9:diamond: 8:spade: (High Card)
      BB shows: 9:club: 4:club: -> K:club: 9:diamond: 9:club: 4:spade: 4:club: (Two Pair)

      BB wins €3,43

      Please note also that I choose the worst hand aka biggest loss that I had on that day. It's not how I usually play >.<
  • 7 replies
    • Tomaloc
      Joined: 17.01.2011 Posts: 7,020
      a: about 5x preflop even
      b: apparently you shoved the flop? just fold the flop vs the potsize donkbet into 3 players.

      also, are you playing bss, mss or whatever?
    • Fr4nR
      Joined: 03.02.2009 Posts: 13
      I'm playing MSS right now.

      On the flop I guess I hoped for a flush draw, not realizing with only 1 spade in hand and two in the flop it's a very weak draw.
    • voidmind
      Joined: 19.01.2011 Posts: 104
      a: Agree with Tomaloc. If you are gonna bet, bet 5x since there is 1 BB dead money in the pot. But I would have folded K10u utg here.
      b: Fold.
    • Tomaloc
      Joined: 17.01.2011 Posts: 7,020
      actually i agree with voidmind, fold preflop is clearly best.
      i was thinking OMG FISHES CO DEADBLIND MONIES but actually KTo is just not good enough to open from first position.

      shoving the flop in these spots is a HUGE leak.
    • Fr4nR
      Joined: 03.02.2009 Posts: 13
      Yes, I don't know what I was thinking (clearly I wasn't hah!)

      At early position the least I should play is AJs, AQ or AK. I just assumed if they don't bet or limp I have strong enough cards to bet >.<

      Will do better, much better, next time. Thank you both for the analysis.
    • gadget51
      Joined: 23.06.2008 Posts: 5,622
      Hi guys,

      Moved this to the appropriate subforum for you.


    • BogdanPS
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hi Fr4NR,

      Preflop: Do you normally play shorter (only 63 BB)? Also, we are EP so we should definitely not open small and open hands like this. All you do is give your opponents a great price to see the flop with you and we don't have a hand that plays well multiway.

      So if we open this hand make it 3.5-4x.

      Postflop: You have 2 people in the pot and one donks pot size. That's rarely a bluff so why do we shove? Our hand is marginal at best and we are often not doing good versus their ranged.

      So fold the flop but really you should fold preflop.

      As a side note, when you leave a reply, please hit the "advise judge to take another look" button.

      Best regards,