[NL20-NL50] Nl50sh QTo

    • jachis
      jachis
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      PartyGaming - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      CO: $107.17 (VPIP: 26.26, PFR: 19.55, 3Bet Preflop: 4.11, Hands: 188)
      BTN: $50.00 (VPIP: 35.48, PFR: 32.26, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 31)
      Hero (SB): $50.00
      BB: $100.89 (VPIP: 34.43, PFR: 4.92, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 63)
      UTG: $95.26 (VPIP: 23.58, PFR: 19.81, 3Bet Preflop: 10.43, Hands: 324)
      MP: $60.41 (VPIP: 20.48, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 9.26, Hands: 172)

      Hero posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has T:diamond: Q:heart:

      fold, fold, CO raises to $1.50, fold, Hero raises to $5.00, fold, CO calls $3.50

      Flop: ($10.50, 2 players) Q:club: 4:spade: A:diamond:
      Hero?????

      Small sample on villain, first 3bet pot with him.

      I think the flop is pretty bad, if he has Ax im beat, If he has Qx its probably better than mine. Just giving up seems to weak,.
  • 4 replies
    • DarkAwi
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      You can cbet/fold I think, not because it has so much value in it, but for collecting dead money, and not letting him bluff you out with like KJ or T9s or something, we don't know what hands he calls vs 3bets. 1/2 pot cbet needs to work ~25% of the time, so it's +ev I think.
    • cutegoldfish
      cutegoldfish
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      Originally posted by DarkAwi
      You can cbet/fold I think, not because it has so much value in it, but for collecting dead money, and not letting him bluff you out with like KJ or T9s or something, we don't know what hands he calls vs 3bets. 1/2 pot cbet needs to work ~25% of the time, so it's +ev I think.
      Half pot cb needs to work 33% of the time. Why did you 3bet pre flop though? Does he fold alot of 3bet pre flop or cb on the flop?
    • jachis
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      Actually his fold to 3bet is 25% (1/4), and he has called cbet 100% (3/3)
      RFI CO 25%, looks like I wasnt paying enough attention or maybe I didnt have those stats in that session.

      As default Im not flatting QTo vs CO, so I put in my bluff3betting range. Seeing his stats I would definitely not 3bet QTo and use a lot more depolarised range against him.
    • cutegoldfish
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      I guess this hand is a fold pre flop then. I agree with your analysis to use a depolarised value 3bet range maybe something like TT+ KQ AJ AQ AK

      As a default though I think 3betting QTo is fine they usually just fold to 3bet
      Cgf