[NL20-NL50] NL50 - Lowest PP we flat

    • Farmarchist
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      Hi,

      With only regs in the pot (and reg in BB). Only flat like 66+? Or vs 2.5x maybe all PP's?

      Or always all pairs? Not sure

      Poker Stars $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2150260
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      BTN: $51.97 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 17, 3B: 6, AF: 4,5, Hands: 485
      Hero (SB): $51.00 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 19, 3B: 8, AF: 3,7, Hands: 217122
      BB: $55.91 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 14, 3B: 8, AF: 4,0, Hands: 133
      UTG: $97.04 - VPIP: 12, PFR: 10, 3B: 5, AF: 2,0, Hands: 94
      MP: $20.29 - VPIP: 29, PFR: 20, 3B: 0, AF: 3,5, Hands: 94
      CO: $50.75 - VPIP: 8, PFR: 8, 3B: 4, AF: 0,0, Hands: 59

      Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with 2 :spade: 2 :club:
      2 folds, CO raises to $1.25, BTN calls $1.25, 2 folds
  • 6 replies
    • duder1n0
      duder1n0
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      We have a coldcaller, original raiser is a nit (we have some implied), and raise size is only 2,5x, so I think it's OK to call with all pairs here even oop (unless BB is a huge squeezemonkey).
    • Farmarchist
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      Oke and what if openraiser was good reg?

      And what if 3x?
    • duder1n0
      duder1n0
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      Both factors make it worse for us to setmine, but I guess it could be still OK being 3way.

      I dont think there is a huge difference between 22 and 66 in this spot, being 3way oop, it's unlikely that we can do much on most boards without hitting (unless opponents are very weak), f.e. check it all the way down, and be good at showdown... And low pairs are also bad for semibluffs having two outs most of the time.
    • cutegoldfish
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      Originally posted by pcfmcc02
      We have a coldcaller, original raiser is a nit (we have some implied), and raise size is only 2,5x, so I think it's OK to call with all pairs here even oop (unless BB is a huge squeezemonkey).
      Agree with pcfmcc we have good implied against his very tight range.

      If he's looser like a regular and opens bigger then I think we can go for a 3bet bluff
    • Farmarchist
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      Only 3bet bluff if their foldto3bet% are exploitable right? Cause these hands don't play good in 3bet pot if called.

      I do think there is a difference between 22 and 66 because multiway people won't stackoff light and set>set gets more important. So lowest PP we call when good reg opens 3x?
    • cutegoldfish
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      We would like someone with high fold to 3bet or high fold to cb in 3betpot.we also don't mind if he likes to play a lot of hands and has high WTS because that means good implied odds.

      Actually 22 plays well in 3betpot.plays well does not mean always hit. It means when we hit we hit well. With 22 we either always have nothing and can give up or we hit our set.

      Yes there is some difference between 22 and 66 like you mentioned. I just watched no limit diamond boot camp oblioo mentioned that we should be calling worst I think 55-66 in button vs Co. But we can widen to 22 if we have reason to believe we have implied odds.