[NL20-NL50] NL50 6max DS, QQ open, AI with nuts, but how about 3rd nuts, etc?

    • Anger86
      Anger86
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      $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players

      CO: $58.85 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 12, 3B: 0, AF: 1,1, Hands: 65
      BTN: $71.00 - VPIP: 44, PFR: 29, 3B: 20, AF: 3,3, Hands: 34
      SB: $97.36 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 17, 3B: 0, AF: 6,0, Hands: 64
      BB: $58.07 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 18, 3B: 19, AF: 3,5, Hands: 73
      Hero (UTG): $127.30 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 18, 3B: 7, AF: 4,5, Hands: 4955
      MP: $58.25 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 10, 3B: 5, AF: 2,3, Hands: 48

      Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with Q :club: Q :heart:
      Hero raises to $1.50, 3 folds, SB calls $1.25, 1 fold

      Flop: ($3.50) 4 :spade: Q :diamond: J :spade: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $2.50, SB raises to $6, Hero raises to $24, SB raises to $95.86, Hero calls $71.86

      Turn: ($195.22) 7 :club: (2 players)

      River: ($195.22) 6 :spade: (2 players)

      Postflop: Betting 2.5 into 3 $ not 3->3, just to make Villain spew a bit.
      Maybe that doesn't even maka a huge difference.

      After a raise I'm commiting for a Turn JAM and
      make my decision easier for that matter.

      Now: I'd bet/fold overpairs, TP's. Bet call nut FD and give up unimproved turn based on given odds Villain gives me.

      JJ = ALLIN ALSO.
      QJs, 44 - now this is tricky. If I get allin, I never expect to be hugely ahead.
      So, I'd bet, call I guess and reevaluate on Turn. 44 I'd actually play based on metagame, but there was none.
      Preflop, I expect Villain capable of calling QQ-22,AK, sometines KK-AA as well.

      In Villain's Shoes:

      I'd probably x/r here QQ, JJ, 44, A :spade: K :spade: as well, but
      44 and AsKs I'd have to fold to such pot commiting raise right?
  • 3 replies
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
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      Hey,

      If we assume opponent's raising range is usually quite strong we can call OOP with QJ and 44, probably combo draws as well then depending on what turn comes and sizing we can check/call, check/shove, I don't think we could check/fold any turn, we usually get to the river as well.

      In villain's shoes, I would not c/r any made hand or strong draw. My c/r range will comprise mostly of hands I can't call with but have some blockers but since we are SB vs UTG I probably have no hands like ATss, ATdd in my range meaning I would not c/r almost anything on this board. I think c/r with what is already a narrow preflop range will be quite bad, we should let UTG value town himself and possibly bluff turn/river since we are so deep.
    • Anger86
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      Originally posted by EmanuelC16
      Hey,

      If we assume opponent's raising range is usually quite strong we can call OOP with QJ and 44, probably combo draws as well then depending on what turn comes and sizing we can check/call, check/shove, I don't think we could check/fold any turn, we usually get to the river as well.

      But I'm IP. So, I call IP w/ 44 and QJs, Asxs, JsTs. Raise with JJ-QQ as played.

      In villain's shoes, I would not c/r any made hand or strong draw. My c/r range will comprise mostly of hands I can't call with but have some blockers but since we are SB vs UTG I probably have no hands like ATss, ATdd in my range meaning I would not c/r almost anything on this board. I think c/r with what is already a narrow preflop range will be quite bad, we should let UTG value town himself and possibly bluff turn/river since we are so deep.

      So, w/ QQ and JJ, A:spade: K:spade: it could sometimes go like this: x/c, x/c, x/r with nut range. And x/c, x/c, x/c with bluffcatch range if board doesn't allow to x/r River.

      I actually would have 22-AA, AK for flatting here vs UTG. Since my range is so narrow, I'd not 3bet almost at all.

    • EmanuelC16
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      My mistake for first sentence. IP it's even easier to call and raise IP when needed. If we 3bet we just look to cooler him which is fine with QQ and JJ but less than that we just 'cooler' ourselves probably.

      Regarding second part, yes. Our equity vs his range will be strong enough to do that plus my own range is also quite narrow vs UTG here. What I want to mention is that 200bb deep I would definitely have a 3betting range vs UTG since you get called quite often so you get value. You mentioned your range on flop includes QQ so I assumed you probably don't 3bet anything which can work ofc but it's not what I'd play like.