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[NL20-NL50] [Sh] Nl30 - Kk

    • bosiati
      bosiati
      Bronze
      Joined: 23.05.2008 Posts: 697
      Cassava Poker $0.15/$0.30 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 2153488
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      CO: $30.00
      BTN: $40.54
      SB: $8.64
      BB: $34.47
      Hero (UTG): $50.86

      Pre Flop: ($0.45) Hero is UTG with K :diamond: K :heart:
      Hero raises to $0.90, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.90, SB calls $0.75, 1 fold

      Flop: ($3.00) 8 :heart: 6 :heart: J :heart: (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $2.10, BTN calls $2.10, SB folds

      Turn: ($7.20) 4 :spade: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $4.50, Hero calls $4.50

      River: ($16.20) 9 :club: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $9, Hero folds

      Hello!

      BU Stats:
      83 hands, 23/17/3.4
      FvFCb:50(4), AF:1.5 AFq:11%
      WTSD:21, W$SD:33(3)

      Was better turn bet? If yes, bet/call or bet/fold?
      If the good moove is ch/c turn, then ch/f, or ch/c river, against this betsize?
  • 5 replies
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hi Bosiati,

      Preflop: looks fine

      Postflop: Why are we check/calling turn and ck/folding river? What's our reasoning behind that?

      Can't villain play Jx like this and other hands (semibluffs)?

      I think that if you ck/call turn we have to ck/call river especially on such a blank.

      As played though bet/folding turn is far superior. I'd make it about 2/3 pot.
    • bosiati
      bosiati
      Bronze
      Joined: 23.05.2008 Posts: 697
      Thank you!
      "What's our reasoning behind that?"
      I think he can semeibluff with AsQ or AsJ turn, and I thought if he bet the river he has flush, not bluff.

      As your opinon, If i bet turn 2/3 pot, then:
      - blank river, what I have to do? b/f, ch/f, ch/c?
      - heart river? b/f? ch/c?

      Thanks bosiati
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Originally posted by bosiati
      Thank you!
      "What's our reasoning behind that?"
      I think he can semeibluff with AsQ or AsJ turn, and I thought if he bet the river he has flush, not bluff.

      As your opinon, If i bet turn 2/3 pot, then:
      - blank river, what I have to do? b/f, ch/f, ch/c?
      - heart river? b/f? ch/c?

      Thanks bosiati
      Hi Bosiati,

      Why not ck/raise the turn then after he bets? Surely we want to maximize value versus his AhX and other hands he bets there.

      On a blank river, this deep, we can bet/fold still to get value form Jx or even TT type hands.

      On a heart river, that's non Ah we can bet really small and fold or just ck/fold. I doubt that he would call two streets to bluff the river or bet worse on a heart.
    • bosiati
      bosiati
      Bronze
      Joined: 23.05.2008 Posts: 697
      OMG! Yesss. The best option is ch/raise on the turn. Why didn't think it!?
      Thank you very much sir!
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,779
      Hi

      Check raising here is overplay and is by far the worst option. Betting is far superior. You are repping sets and flushes so i dont think he calls down light. And kk is way too strong to use as a bluffcatcher on the turn so i would jst bet for value.