[NL20-NL50] QJ 4bet co vs bu

    • GingerKid
      GingerKid
      Black
      Joined: 05.08.2007 Posts: 5,536
      iPoker - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BB: 242.92 BB (VPIP: 22.74, PFR: 17.80, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 726)
      UTG: 70.64 BB (VPIP: 24.24, PFR: 12.63, 3Bet Preflop: 8.43, Hands: 205)
      MP: 113.5 BB (VPIP: 20.65, PFR: 18.71, 3Bet Preflop: 6.15, Hands: 157)
      Hero (CO): 137.26 BB
      BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 25.59, PFR: 21.39, 3Bet Preflop: 10.92, Hands: 2,305)
      SB: 50 BB (VPIP: 23.77, PFR: 20.08, 3Bet Preflop: 5.95, Hands: 500)

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J:spade: Q:heart:

      fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BTN raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 18 BB, BTN calls 10 BB

      Flop: (37.5 BB, 2 players) 4:diamond: K:diamond: 2:spade:
      Hero bets 18 BB, BTN calls 18 BB

      Turn: (73.5 BB, 2 players) 2:diamond:
      Hero bets 33 BB, fold

      Hero shows J:spade: Q:heart: (One Pair, Twos)
      Hero wins 69.84 BB


      He 3bets vs CO 11%, folds to 4bet 60%. I cbet flop and turn to fold his TT-QQ hands. I would not bet river.
  • 3 replies
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Hi,

      if players let you run them over, then go ahead; but you should then always balanceyour 4bets with QQ/KK/AA/AK, since you likely get started to play back too often.
      Also I´m not sure why BU is not shoving JJ-AA, AK against your wide 4bet range. He is likely only folding TT and sometimes JJ against your turn barrel and I would personally shove river when flush gets there.

      best regards,
    • GingerKid
      GingerKid
      Black
      Joined: 05.08.2007 Posts: 5,536
      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      Hi,

      if players let you run them over, then go ahead; but you should then always balanceyour 4bets with QQ/KK/AA/AK, since you likely get started to play back too often.
      Also I´m not sure why BU is not shoving JJ-AA, AK against your wide 4bet range. He is likely only folding TT and sometimes JJ against your turn barrel and I would personally shove river when flush gets there.

      best regards,

      He is shoving 99+, AQ+ versus any position. Also couple of times A5o, A7s and similar. He called once my cold 4bet with 27s IP 100bb stacks.
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,696
      Hi.

      Preflop: Your 4b size is fine, it's a little small being OOP but if someone is folding 60% to 4bets I don't think he will flat here too often. Would make it $20 vs looser players who call more.

      Flop: I think this is way too large. Our fold equity on a King high Flop is going to be fairly high. Just bet 40% or 33% of the pot here.

      Turn: This is a bad card for us. Flushes get there and I doubt he folds KQ KJ here. I also think he doesn't have too many AX floats or mid pairs which can fold to a turn raise (those are likelier to 5bet jam preflop). I much prefer c/f

      Thanks.