[NL20-NL50] NL50 6max, AA folding to cbet raise

    • Anger86
      Anger86
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      $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players

      CO: $63.83 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 12, 3B: 5, AF: 2,7, Hands: 103
      BTN: $61.99 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 14, 3B: 4, AF: 5,0, Hands: 65
      SB: $50.25 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 17, 3B: 5, AF: 0,0, Hands: 103
      BB: $33.16 - VPIP: 39, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 5,0, Hands: 23
      UTG: $65.50 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 10, 3B: 2, AF: 1,0, Hands: 134
      Hero (MP): $67.18 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 18, 3B: 7, AF: 4,3, Hands: 7261

      Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is MP with A :diamond: A :club:
      1 fold, Hero raises to $1.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $1.50, 2 folds

      Flop: ($3.75) 9 :heart: 6 :diamond: J :spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.50, BTN raises to $7.50, Hero folds

      I'd bet/call 66, 99, JJ ans slowplay if he bluffs, f.e.

      Also I'd call QTs, 87s, T8s - if opened.
  • 7 replies
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
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      Hey,

      Sounds OK to me, you can slowplay reasonably well and also don't have that many draws to make a weak range. I think AA is a bit too weak here and you need to know more about your opponent, he might raise way too often and AA is no longer a fold. As I often say, if you do get raised quite often you might consider check/calling overpairs here if you are not confident what the better play is against a raise given your opponent's range. :)
    • ezeras
      ezeras
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      It seems to me like a bluff. Would it be bad to call with overpairs vs unknown in these spots?
    • EmanuelC16
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      It's almost never a bluff or a better hand, it's a whole range. Sure, we can get bluffed sometimes but against his whole range we rarely are able to make money imo, he is usually too nutted. What range would you give him?
    • ezeras
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      his range could be maybe some random hands, his raise doesn't have sense except bluffing. Because board is relatively dry, just J high which is good for our oppoments to bluff, if we fold in these situations we are folding too many hands imo. If we have about 17% range about 230 combos and we cbet with them most of the time on this board and we call just 30 combos then our oppoment has a quite good spot to bluff raise here. In my experience I like to bluff raise againts weak regs who folds in this situation and it works perfectly and sometimes I bluff 3 bet on the flop if my oppoment raises on boards which he could have no raising range.
    • ezeras
      ezeras
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    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
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      On J96 all hands that are 76s or better have something. That's not a dry board. Flushdraws are not the only thing that make a board dry or wet. So many turn cards give a huige percentage of hands combo draws.

      Furthermore, why would we cbet all of our opening combos on a board that hits our opponent's range well and he is not very likely to fold?
    • GingerKid
      GingerKid
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      Originally posted by ezeras
      It seems to me like a bluff. Would it be bad to call with overpairs vs unknown in these spots?
      I think it depends mostly on how aggresive is average player in your limit where you play. For example when I played NL10 and NL20 in Ipoker I would fold to raise with TPTK or overpair without thinking.
      But in NL50, almost everyone is raising often with gutshots or overcards IP because they know you dont hit this board so often and it is hard to continue, and when I call down I win in most cases, so I dont fold AA versus unknown. Also it depends on position, if I am BU vs blinds then they raise me very often becasue they know that my range is weak, so I call more often.