[NL20-NL50] NL 25 Easy fold?

    • elchipriota
      elchipriota
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      Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2157032
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      BTN: $41.30 - VPIP: 30, PFR: 30, 3B: 33, AF: 1,0, Hands: 10
      Hero (SB): $41.03 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 21, 3B: 9, AF: 2,8, Hands: 129004
      BB: $126.68 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 14, 3B: 17, AF: 0,5, Hands: 21
      UTG: $19.35 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0,0, Hands: 3
      MP: $10.00 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0,0, Hands: 1
      CO: $28.97 - VPIP: 40, PFR: 20, 3B: 0, AF: 2,0, Hands: 5

      Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with A :diamond: Q :heart:
      2 folds, CO raises to $0.75, BTN raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $3.60, 1 fold, CO calls $2.85, BTN calls $2.10

      Flop: ($11.05) A :club: T :spade: 7 :heart: (3 players)
      Hero bets $4.50, CO calls $4.50, BTN calls $4.50

      Turn: ($24.55) 8 :diamond: (3 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $20.87, BTN folds, Hero folds
  • 5 replies
    • cutegoldfish
      cutegoldfish
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      pre flop - i think its fine to 4bet for value against BU, not much stats but looks capable of 3betting broadways and some suited aces that could call

      flop - bet sizing is fine for value

      turn - never folding here, CO could bet worse Ax and gutshot draws.
    • elchipriota
      elchipriota
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      Joined: 06.06.2012 Posts: 438
      I know this is a very subjective question, with a probable very subjective answer, but do you ever expect him to call with worse preflop on a 4bet pot and then call flop threeway, and ship turn?

      The only hands I think I am beating there is AJ and KK, QQ,JJ,
    • pokerferrer
      pokerferrer
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      It is a very nasty situation preflop. Most of the time we will play oop vs 1 or 2 opponents. And even with tp we will fill uncomfortable in a huge bank, especially because vs bu we are deep, as it was in the hand.

      I think folding preflop or just cold calling is better here, we need information and are not ready to play huge pots.

      And on the turn vs unknown I would also played as hero. Also question is: If you are not ready play tptk on stack why then cold 4bet?
    • elchipriota
      elchipriota
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      Originally posted by pokerferrer
      It is a very nasty situation preflop. Most of the time we will play oop vs 1 or 2 opponents. And even with tp we will fill uncomfortable in a huge bank, especially because vs bu we are deep, as it was in the hand.

      I think folding preflop or just cold calling is better here, we need information and are not ready to play huge pots.

      And on the turn vs unknown I would also played as hero. Also question is: If you are not ready play tptk on stack why then cold 4bet?
      Thank you for the input.

      It seemed like a good spot to turn my hand into a bluff with my overs and 4bet
    • mbml
      mbml
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      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      Hi.

      Preflop: Don't like the 4bet here unless we know over a larger sample that BU's 3bet range is very wide and we have a value 4bet here

      As played:

      I think you should just jam the Turn for value. The sample is low but I think both CO and BU are fishes. Their ranges here are much wider than you think. They can have AXs, A9o, AJo, and a bunch of straight draw floats.

      That's why as played I am not folding the Turn, but I prefer jamming for value myself when their ranges are probably going to be very wide here.